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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    can some one not counter sue trump, he sues every Tim, dick and harry and most of the time they’re thrown out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Ceathran


    You still believe polls? How can we ever forget this amazing poll: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/02/harris-leading-trump-iowa-poll-presidential-election-.html

    And whatever happened to the keys' guy? His keys told him Harris would definitely win and was then trounced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Illusory


    Huh? There are hundreds upon hundreds of lawsuits against the Trump and his administration?

    Tracking the lawsuits against the Trump administration | AP News



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'm getting a big vibe that the Trump fans are getting half their answers from chatgpt at this point. Weirdly specific dumps of information going on.

    Also in relation to the Trump nyt lawsuit, imagine the furore if any other sitting president pulled that kind of ****.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    see we have a new pro Trump bot



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,577 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Can't believe that tariffs still have to be explained to Trump worshipers.

    😕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    trumps type of comedy. Non stop footage of people getting hit in the balls.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    You've got to be joking about Israel there ("keeping tensions stabilised").

    Israel mainly starts loads of fires in the ME (that the US has to help put out, or at least used to try and do so under previous admin) and is attacking most of its neighbours.

    There's some noises coming from there now I think about dealing with the Turks in future as well. I wonder if that would be perhaps a Doha type bombing run to kill Hamas members or other people Israel wants to wipe out, or could it even be [going to extremes] an Iran-style mini-war?

    I would have said it was complete crazy talk (Israel attacking Turkey), but after this last year in the ME…That could be a new pickle for the USA, if the Israelis are mad enough to do it.

    Post edited by fly_agaric on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    While I'm very much aware that the importer pays the tariff, from what I gather, their new rules require the tariff to be paid before the item arrives in the US. So if I ship something over there for example, An Post will contact the recipient and collect the tariff, then forward it to the US. I wonder is that a way that Trump could say "well An Post are paying us", ignoring that the money came from someone in the US in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,644 ✭✭✭standardg60




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    The Anne Selzer/ Des Moines Register poll had an excellent record before that one. I think the internet has made accurate polling very difficult, as stories can break suddenly on social media before the press and broadcasters can catch up.

    Rural areas are sometimes hard to poll accurately in the US. Iowa is a largely agricultural state. I think the issue of cuts to farmers involved in subsidised food for humanitarian aid may hurt Republicans in rural states.

    They wouldn't be trying this level of gerrymandering if their internal polls were positive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    Clearly not as he wouldn't have won the election and the popular vote at that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    The time may have come for the "Ow! My Balls" TV show and "Ass" feature film (Idiocracy) to be greenlit by a daring US studio.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Illusory


    Yup, Trump now has so many days to refile it with the restriction that it needs to be 40 pages or less, rather than 85 pages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    they’d have to have a show about trans women getting hit in the balls too.
    For the MAGA s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,992 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Didn't see that one on his feed, if that's real, but did see this,

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    What a time we live in where the US president is literally a shítposting troll.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Also the result being outside of the 95% Margin of Error is a statistical inevitability eventually.

    People **** on polls just don't understand either the complexities of running them or frequently basic statistics.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    ALL TARIFFS ARE PAID BY AMERICANS.

    Countries have absolutely fùck all to do with the price of exports. It's the private companies decision what they charge.

    If a thing cost $100 and he put a 20% tariff on, the exporter can still charge $100 for it, but the American now pays $120.

    Or they could cut the price to say $90 to reduce the impact to their customer , but the American is still paying $108 for the thing that used to cost $100.

    However, the single most important thing here is that at no point does a single solitary PENNY of tariff money go from either a foreign government or foreign company to the United States government.

    Every cent of the tariff money he keeps bragging about has come from the profits of American companies and the pockets of American consumers and will continue to do so in increasing amounts as the last of the pre tariff stocks run out across the USA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,644 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Haven't done any research into this but I'm wondering how the tariffs would actually work in relation to our Pharma. Say a batch gets exported from here to the parent company. Parent company then pays the tariff due. Parent company then writes tariff off against it's US taxes. Result, no net loss or even gain?

    Also can't see any of our MNCs re-shoring anytime soon in the current climate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Ceathran




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Billion dollar multinationals are very savy in order to avoid taxes/tariffs. They could easily decide to sell the widgets to their US office for cost price (literally pennies) in exchange for a licensing fee of $10 a pill.

    End result is the importer pays 15% on a massively reduced price and exporter gets full price in the end.

    There's probably multiple ways they can fiddle around to reduce tariffs to a minimum.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Pharma has an incredibly complex manufacturing chain. Most of what's made in Ireland isn't the actual final product drug, it's some or all of the ingredients which might go through multiple factories before it's actually completed so avoiding tariffs is almost impossible.

    As for moving back to the US.. even if they really wanted to, it could take 4/5 years at least to get a new facility up and running given all the testing and validation that is required.

    So most of them will smile and nod and spend some money "evaluating" sites in the US in the hopes of waiting Trump out.

    Post edited by Quin_Dub on


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    That isn't how taxes work. It will reduce their taxable profit, but that's like saying running at a massive loss is more tax advantageous than making money.

    If all it did was cut their profit by the exact amount of the tariff (and it's more complicated than that), they would get "back" only 21% by the reduced corporate taxes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    If being wrong was enough to deserve cancellation, Fox News would be long gone so it is by no means the whole point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Illusory


    My one daughter worked in the pharmaceutical industry in middle management. Yes it would take 4/5 years to build a new facility and the machinery needed to produce the product, but she says there are plenty of pharmaceutical manufacturing facilities and machinery with tons of available capacity in the US to produce massive amounts of additional drugs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Moving those goalposts around will do your back in.

    According to your hero himself, tariffs were being imposed at various rates to reflect the surplus of trade where such countries had exports greater to the U.S. that their imports from the U.S.

    I have no idea what the penguins and seals on Heard and McDonald islands were exporting to the U.S. that gave them a trade surplus which resulted in them being hit with a 10% tariff by Trump, but for Brazil the surplus is on the U.S. side, ~$7 billion last year. Trump imposed tariffs on Brazil for no other reason than they were prosecuting, and subsequently found guilty and sentenced to 27 years, their ex-president Bolsonaro for plotting a coup to keep him in power. A fate Trump should also have suffered for his own attempts to do the same.

    The irony that you are now trying to sell that the tariff on Brazil was Trump fighting against the removal of political content, when he is now proposing that any media outlet that doesn`t flatter him should have their licences removed, is lost on you it appears. You also appear to have missed that Trumps tariffs are costing U.S. soybeans farmers much more than the cost of a cup of coffee with China now buying soybeans from Brazil which is going to put U.S. farmers out of business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭Illusory


    You really don't know why he put tariffs on Heard and McDonald islands? It's rather simple… it stops companies from shifting sales operations there in order to avoid export tariffs to the US.

    A farm is located across the street from me. The farmer rotates his crops between corn and soybeans. I asked the farmer about the soybean situation. He said meh, farmers will just plant something other than soybeans.

    And please show me where Trump is proposing that any media outlet that doesn`t flatter him should have their licenses revoked. Thanks in advance for getting that for me.

     



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It's got almost nothing to do with the buildings , it's got to do with the processes.

    The factory could be ready in few months but the tolerances in the process are so tiny that they have to test and test and test endlessly as the batches from Site A and Site B etc. have to be 100% chemically identical and that takes a LOT of time to get right.

    Nothing is moving in the next 4 years that wasn't already planned long before Trump got into Office.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭Classic21


    how long does your daughter think it would take to move manufacturing to the US from another country?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 356 ✭✭somenergy


    Countries find new markets in 2 years time America will have to encourage and pay more to recover its broken supply chain.

    Tarif only work as a threat once used your fucked

    China is giving two fingers to the felon

    Yesterday he was gloating about tick tok deal best ever will talk to xi today guess what no deal

    all his trade deals have no details they are just concepts shame on Americans voting and capitulating to this conman



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