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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,272 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I get all that but I didn't make an argument, i asked a question which you completely ignored. The question was "is there demonstrable harm?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Yes, there is, having a man in women's toilets or changing rooms is, at the very least, disturbing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,272 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ok, we've established it disturbs you and you consider it common sense. Can you address the question I actually asked which was about demonstrable harm?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭Cordell




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,272 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    OK so is the demonstrable harm your common sense and you being disturbed?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭Greyfox




  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well that is certainly not a controversial opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭CardF


    well lets give it a shot and find out. who cares what women think anyway.

    and if there is an incident of "demonstrable harm", well the aftermath is not going to be pretty.

    in any case there will be an accusation, real or false, that i can guarantee. i would advise that community to think more strategically, accept compromise in an imperfect world, use a third option, dont put yourselves in risks way.

    anyway. thats my 2c. crazy world, good luck out there.

    Bailey had a “borderline personality” based on “narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity with an intolerance to frustration and a great need for recognition”.

    Psychiatrist Jean Michel Masson and psychologist Katy Lorenzo-Regreny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭cms88


    I think an issue with giving LOI clubs large amounts of money is would it be spent in the right places? A few years ago Waterford said they needed money to make it to the end of the season and people supported it. Yet it then turned out the money was spent on signing new players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    If LOI clubs got more money they'd almost certainly spend it on outbidding their rivals for mediocre players so they could win the LOI. Thats pretty much what happened when Shelbourne had a big load of money from their good run in europe when they played Deportivo La Coruna.

    LOI is really not much better than the FAI it's just people think that because some of the teams have had a couple of good results in europe and the league is a bit more popular now it means it's well run but in truth it underperforms compared to similar sized countires. Look at how much better Norwegian, Croatian and Danish (similar sized countries) clubs are in Europe compared to LOI clubs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭cms88


    The likes of Rovers etc are well run and have learnt from others who wasted the money they got from Europe etc There's still a lot of clubs who think they're well run but are being propped up by a small number of people who if they pull the plug it will be a disaster. Dundalk are the latest example of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Rovers are extremely well run but they appear to be the exception unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭cms88


    But that wasn't always the case. Despite it happening over and over again some clubs just do the same thing. Cork is a prime example. How they haven't been able to get it right i'll never know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Cork should be one of the power houses in the league, they always seemed to get good crowds, they have a huge market having a whole city basically to themselves



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,957 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Ask each club to submit plans for ground improvements and invite them to apply for grants, strictly ringfenced for the ground improvements.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭cms88


    That's how it should be. Someone i know once worked in the Dept for giving out sports grants etc They once told me you could almost guarantee when an LOI club would apply there would be something wrong wtih the application. Yet with the GAA ad Rugby there rarely if ever had any issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭csirl


    I think LOI clubs are asked to do too much and their limited capabilities are spread too thin. The FAI should be running regional academies and the underage development structure.

    In theory you could field a team in the LOI Premier Division with 20 players and half a dozen coaches/staff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 IfOnlyIfOnly


    What do you mean it just "feels" wrong to the people saying they don't want biological males in a space where women are in vulnerable states of undress?

    It is wrong. There is no feelings involved, it's just morally, socially and undoubtedly wrong.

    There is a clear moral line in society, no matter how much brow-beating or string pulling you attempt on this matter it won't make a difference. It's a clear violation of the moral code of being a human.

    Allow women their safety and privacy to undress with confidence, to know 100% they can bring their young daughter in there with them to get changed and not have to worry that a man (in woman's clothing) will waltz in and see them stark naked.

    You keep harping on about "demonstrable harm" and proving it but let's make that situation more personal, give you a likely scenario to happen;

    What happens when a woman who was sexually attacked in her past is getting changed and spots a man (in woman's clothing) walk in on her half naked? Do you have any idea what damage that would do to someone in that position? It would be an immediate psychological crisis – The poor woman would crash back down to the day of her trauma, reliving it and praying the man (in woman's clothing) doesn't repeat what happened to her previously. The man didn't even do anything, he doesn't even have to speak but his presence alone could destroy her. He may not intend to do harm but even being there could be harmful.

    It's a hypothetical situation and before you ask, no, I don't have evidence but I truly believe it could and would happen.

    Again, it's morally wrong and reprehensible. To even consider allowing men into those spaces is insane.

    To top it all off, as another poster stated - You clearly do not care whatsoever about this, you're just here to drag out an argument for your own entertainment so do everyone a favor and jog on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    I have zero empathy for what happened to Charlie Kirk.

    Zilch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Zionist.


    The people over on the Charlie Kirk thread gloating about his murder are evil, are what is wrong in society and tupify why boards will die when the moderation is so outrageously skewed in their favour



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,257 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Yes. They are evil.

    In my opinion, sadly that's the average person these days. If you have a different opinion to them, then you should lose your job / be shunned / canceled and or killed. No sympathy given. "Rot in the street!" etc etc.

    All from having a different opinion.

    Rest my case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,920 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Charlie Kirk April 5, 2023: "I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

    He has stated this in the aftermath of school shootings where young children were killed. So excuse me if I have no sympathy for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Evil? Perhaps not.

    Cúntish, definitely. Same with FB comments from those on the right delighting in an Irish woman getting bloodied by German police, the extremes of left and right include some awful cúnts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    You should see the videos that sickos are posting on social media! Literally singing and dancing and jumping for joy. They are all in the early 20s age range. Not all, but a good portion of that generation have become completely desensitized to violence and are driven by hatred.

    As long as someone is on the opposite side to you, they can be killed in cold blood and you celebrate it, they are not viewed as human beings. We have seen this phenomenon a lot lately.

    Those videos are online for good, any chance of getting a decent career in future has been deep sixed by these idiots. Would you hire someone who dances around smiling ear to ear because a wife has just lost her husband and two young kids will grow up without their dad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,257 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Agreed.

    Sadly I came across a video of some guy (in his 20s) with a mega phone on the street saying "we got charlie in the neck…" over and over again.

    Let's just all be honest. The human race are animals and scumbags. Sure, not all, but so so many. I don wonder if that is an unpopular opinion these days eh?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,537 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    The left hail a career criminal a hero after his death but rejoice when a law abiding husband and father is brutally murdered.

    They make me sick.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,487 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Ok I gotta ask. Which career criminal are you referring to?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭89897


    He traded his humanity for clout and now hes lost both. While I dont be celebrating his death, I wont be mourning it either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Israelis get attacked & murdered at a music festival. Now, RTE decide to boycott a music festival if Israel is in it. I’m for music festivals and all the joy they bring. Remember that Hamas/Palestine is anti our way of life.

    Israel received a very large public vote in this year’s competition. Did RTE take these voters into consideration when making their undemocratic decision?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Did RTE take these voters into consideration

    Hahaha good one. All they take into consideration is the tv license - we can boycott that.



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