The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

No hard feelings man

Fair play. My sarcasm detector wasn't operating that day!

I certainly believe the “draw” is anything but a “draw”. For example, the minor SFs are being drawn in Breffni tomorrow evening. Why isn’t every draw in front of a crowd like that?

It's a bit of a nonsense to think any of these draws are fixed. Improbable things are that, improbable, but not impossible. With any conspiracy, it's very hard to keep that under wraps with so many people involved. And in the draws there are lots involved from a variety of clubs at various times. It makes no sense to fix the draws and hope a lot of people keep quiet, and even to risk any positions

You could see the benefit of keeping the bigger teams apart till later stages in UEFA competitions (and i've heard that said too), but why would that apply to the Cavan senior championship draw? If that was the case, why have 1v2, 2v3 and so on?

Also, if the county board was fixing the "big draw" how did they not manage to get us a Gowna Vs Lough final for the last few years? Why give Crosserlough such a bad draw in 2021?

In terms of a live draw, did that not happen "live" on a Sunday in Breffni park? Or was that fixed too?

I think there's enough to critique in terms of how our underage structures are behind other counties without having to invest in a lot of tinfoil and start claiming it's all some mastermind conspirary against (who? The lough?- Ballinagh could claim to have the worst draw- does someone on the county board have an axe to grind with Ballinagh?)

It doesn’t really interest me that much to be honest. I don’t particularly care how they do them. The fairest way would be a live draw on the pitch in Breffni after the last game Sunday evening but that doesn’t happen. Like I said though, I do not believe they are “random” draws. Just like I never believed the old AI qualifier draws were random.

I’ve never believed it was to benefit any team (bar Dublin the year they found themselves in the qualifiers and got the easiest draw ever), rather to keep teams and supporters interested - for example, how many years have we had a 4th round draw where even teams with no points have something to play for? It all goes back to money & finance lads. Nothing else.

That’s my opinion. I’m not particularly interested in debating it as I’m no conspiracy theory tinfoil hat wearer and it really isn’t that interesting a topic in the middle of championship.

I wouldn’t have thought from previous posts on here that ye lads were so trusting of our county board.

Some draws just live on socials just there. They must read the thread!

That’s the minor games was it not? That draw has been planned since yesterday - CB sent it out. Bit ridiculous that they stick minor semi finals at neutral grounds and charge parents in to watch their kids. It was bad enough doing it with finals.

There you have it in a nutshell. Easy to do live for round one. After that its more complicated. Can you imagine doing round four live in Breffni park at half time on a Sunday night?

"First out of the bag is Crosserlough…and they face…Killygary, wait they can't draw them, so let's go again….so Crosserlough will play….Ballinagh, wait they can't draw them….give us another go….so here we go, Crosserlough will play…."

Can you imagine the giving out? I can. "This shower havent a clue"…."shambles"….

What's the situation with Gearoid McKiernan? He back training with Swad but cant play as too late putting in the transfer.

If he to play County next year he'll be without competitive football for a while

You raised the great county board conspiracy. You.

When people who can do maths called it, you scuttled away. And made your "sure I'm not interested" comment.

Generally speaking a big crowd isn't just about the two teams, it's about people from the county going who think there will be a contest. Virginia is a big town by Cavan standards, but they didn't bring a massive crowd to some of the games I've seen them at. Anyways…

Did the Lough get dumped out in 2021 as champions with a sticky draw? Surely the county boad mandarins would have pulled strings to keep them into at least the semis?

Did the Lough not get dumped out twice by Gowna at the semi final stages? Surely the Machiavellian county board could have avoided that….

That's the county board for you. Even when they're fixing the draw they can't even do that properly….

So who brought up that whole county board conspiracy again? Both of these are before I even commented on the topic.

if the draws aren't random, then that means they are fixed. It would be a farily big deal to rig a draw (repeatedly) so if you're going to do it, why? You've not explained that one to anyone.

You weighed in so own your own nonsense. One of those posters admitted he was pulling our leg.What has the All Ireland draw got to do with the Cavan championship?

Can you stop shouting and read the actual posts?

I’ve already given my opinion for why I believe it would be done in a post above. It’s there. You mightn’t accept it, which you’re entitled to, but it is there.
At the moment though you can’t even identify who has said what. I in fact wasn’t the poster introduced the topic or made the initial claims. You appear to be taking this all a bit personally to be honest which is strange on a random internet forum. Do you want to tackle the initial poster of the point there?

As for the AI draw, if headquarters themselves saw fit to do it, you believe it’s above a county board or boards?
Sure the GAA are famous for every ticket draw etc being above board!!!

There’s very little point debating someone who won’t admit they were blatantly wrong when it was pointed out above and, secondly, asks questions already answered. That’s not me sulking now either, it’s the facts of the matter. As I’ve said from the start too, this isn’t exactly a hill I’m too bothered about dieing on.

Care to weigh in about something more worthwhile like no underage finals in Breffni or parents being charged into minor SFs as well as finals?

My understanding is that a lot of the lads playing abroad in the likes of America play under different names. They never actually get a transfer.