Fun With Flags! DCC Edition

This is a controversial move from Dublin City Council. I'm not sure what the removal of tricolours is going to do other than create more tensions between natives and immigrants. Also why would immigrants be offended by the flag of the country that they moved to? This whole situation is boarding on parody now

If the people putting up the flag intend it to signify that Ireland belongs to the 'white Irish' only, then there is a major problem. The tricolour was always intended to be inclusive, hence it having the colours of two different traditions on the island, never exclusive.

It doesn't matter what was the person thinking or implying when they raised the flag. The flag has it's meaning, and its meaning doesn't change depending on the mood of the one rising it.

And let’s be honest as soon as you said “white Irish” the picture no doubt formed among posters of the type of person who put up those tricolours. Likely to be not very educated, unstable family background, and from a disadvantaged area. And likely some involvement with criminality either past or present. With massive chips on their shoulders.

Without realising they show up the worst of the worst stereotypes from certain communities. Giving a bad name to the decent people in those communities.

The the problem is the appropriation of the flag by those with negative connotations. Although like you I don’t like the trend of flying flags from other nations. It has a real “look at me caring” vibe about it. And it looks silly.

Personally I think the tricolour should only be flown on sporting occasions. Back in 1990 it took ironically an English man Jack Charlton to reclaim pride in the tricolour. As before it had become associated with violent sectarian republicanism.

I wouldn’t like to see tricolours flown at every door like the way the Americans do with their flag. In my view it is a look at me vibe. Or worse exclusionary in its intent. It would be a terrible shame if racists are allowed to appropriate the Irish flag.

This is exactly the dangerous mindset I am talking about “it says a lot about the politicians of this country”. It is mindsets like that, which lead to death threats if taken to extremes.

The truth is permission must be sought by DCC to fly or put anything on a public lamppost etc otherwise it is illegal.

Personally I think it speaks volumes of those who put the tricolour in those areas.

1. Why do they feel threatened?
2. What are their backgrounds to lead to that mindset?
3. Why do they want a segregated Ireland?

I'm no fan of kneecap, not my kind of music, but I do support what they are doing for our flag. And it is still our flag, no matter what the racists think

The irony of racist rallies using a flag that symbolises the peace between 2 different communities should not be lost on anyone

Just cause you wave a tricolour does not make you racist

Yes - it has become the flag of choice for the racists, which, as I stated, is quite ironic. Doesn't mean anybody and everybody holding one is a racist.

There are plenty of immigrants who came to our shores many years ago who after all these years now identify as being Irish and feel that flag is their symbol too.

That's on you, allowing the tricolor to be appropriated and even if unwillingly validating with their views.

Have everyone fly the tricolour, drown the racists in a sea of tricolours, that should be the response, not fighting against your own flag.

A lot of truth in this. The Cross of St George is now being used in England as the flag of choice of assorted racists and 'right wing English nationalists' : anyone saying the use of the flag in this context is completely benign and harmless is being a tad disingenuous. It is 100% tribal and meant to 'other' groups who are not part of the tribe.

I have experienced it time and again, Migrants who have get up and go / education appear to have no baggage to the Irish language unlike the natives.

Also I assume you have relatives who are/were economic migrants in UK, USA, Australia ? I do, they all worked hard and bettered themselves.

It is no coincidence that the anti Immigration tricolour flying fools are from the deprived areas of Dublin. It is much easier to target an immigrant, than strive to better yourself. Blame others for your problems instead. They are an embarrassment to our country.

I believe he is the patron saint of 15 different countries, many of them European (!)