Cold Case Review of Sophie Tuscan du Plantier murder to proceed

Buttimer, you mean. I would like to hear his thoughts if it is proven to be Bailey's DNA.

You go on and on about peddling misinformation, and then starting walking back your own assertions. Whenever you get challenged on your bull you just start attacking the posters themselves. Seems like you should look in the mirror once in a while.

I don’t understand.
Obviously Jules, his former solicitor and his sister have all recently stated that they’re not expecting Baileys DNA to be found there.
If it is found, then I wouldn’t class it as a sh1tshow - but I would be very surprised as would many I’d wager - the Gardai would be delighted considering the mess they made of the original investigation - but at least they’ll be able to say “we told ya so”. And of course case finally closed.

If someone’s else’s DNA is found which points to a strong likelihood of them being the killer, then the “sh1tshow” focus is very much on the Gardai investigation and how could they have got it so wrong? But at least finally, Bailey is in the clear.

30 years of waiting for justice for the family, when the perpetrator has died, the husband has died, the father has died, there is no forthcoming explanation for the complete disaster of an investigation. It was a circus which should and would require a tribunal imo. As I said a sh*tshow, but not as bad as if they find someone else DNA which would be far worse, and still a resolution.

personally I don’t believe he did- what’s very likely is given Baileys penchant for mouthing off with the public in the years following his arrest, it’s very possible that either he created this “fiction” for his own amusement or some passing reference by him was misinterpreted and it grew legs .

"I expect you will just believe whatever you think makes Bailey look most guilty"

Nah. I rely on probability. Bolger gets maligned regularly on this thread. I find that particularly interesting because I fail to see a reason why. Maybe it`s a local thing. The latest was that his testimony was undermined by a photo of him walking towards the scene before the gate was removed on the 24th. Then we eventually get the photo and the gate is nowhere to be seen. There`s a couple of posters who have been on here who have access to the garda file. Ye fawn over them like they are paragons of objectivity when in reality they probably got access to the file from Bailey. Whenever they decide to do a bit of selective leaking it is never anything that incriminates Bailey. Always the opposite.

"I don`t even know why it matters."

It doesn`t particularly.

Like why would it even matter where the file comes from, a file cannot be biased for god's sake. It's a garda file, it just has some information you don't like, so you don't want to hear about it. The gardai file contains all of the evidence against Bailey too by the way, you can't just dismiss the parts you don't like.

I'm not sure Bolger is the one to hang your hat on either. There are certainly some witnesses who have decent credibility, and made honest statements, some of those are for sure against Bailey. Bolger is not one of them, and definitely not more credible by the day. He has made many questionable statements and recollections. He has had run ins with the law himself, in fact has broken the law and was convicted. He was one of the last suspects to be eliminated before Bailey was honed in on, so definitely had credibility issues with the gardai even back then. He also literally made a joke about the murder and said others thought he may have done the murder too.

Why is the big black spot at 10 o clock on the enlarged pic of the gate not on the original? Shirley went to the dump on the 23rd. Oh…and maybe tell us who gave you the file?

Probably because it's a screenshot from my laptop. The bags were taken out of the car on 23rd and Shirley drove off without them. There is no record of what happened to them after that which is why I said "presumably".

Nah. That bird has flown now and you`ve already posted a similar photo of the gate taken on the 23rd or 24th. So Shirley never went to the dump. Maybe you could establish a date for when the bags were removed from the side of the lane. That might help establish a date. Where did you get the file?

No certainly not, even worse if Jule's daughter was under 18. I am surprised Jules didn't kick Bailey out after that. Maybe an indication she stuck to him for whatever reason no matter what. Just specualtion of course.

This is another from the same sequence. To me it looks like Leo going up the field but you must form your own opinion.

And to clarify when I became aware of this forum and aware of the debate around Shirley and the bags - I did post all the relevant statements as others, I am sure, will attest to. I suggest you go back through the posts and check for yourself.

Absolutely. Have it your way.

Thank you.