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  • #5642
    Deep Thought
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    ola peeps. Was looking at something in black..

    These two tickle the fancy.

    The Pelagos has no box or papers , the Sinn has papers , no box. It’s also my sons birth year.


    The Tudor is €1000 more than the Sinn, but would no box or papers be a worry?


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    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



  • #5643
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,216 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    papers cost money and sit in the draw doing nothing in my opinion, but the watch you like for the right price

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • #5644
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,632 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Exactly. I have no idea why people are so anal about papers. You can't wear those, can you?

    Very different watches but the Pelagos wins hands down for me. Top Tudor in my book, never owned one yet myself. I should get that fixed 😁

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #5645
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,571 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I know you cant wear box & papers but it clearly matters. Its obviously a narrower resale market since some folks just wouldnt touch anything without it.



  • #5646
    banie01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,008 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123660122#Comment_123660122

    That Sinn is lovely, and very, very tempting. I already have a Sinn Chrono I'm trying to get rid of tho, so I must resist.

    I've owned a black 5 line Pelagos and they are a brilliant watch IMO. The clasp is a marvel of ya ever actually dive.

    For me, the choice would really come down to price. Box & papers are always a "nice to have" but, not the be all and end all. If the price without reflects that, I'd happily buy without papers.



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  • #5647
    Deep Thought
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123660525#Comment_123660525

    Looking at C24, the pelagos is about €1k less that those with box and papers

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



  • #5648
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,216 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123660265#Comment_123660265

    In my experience buyers looking for box and papers when buying on the used market are new to buying or brainwashed by the likes of Paul Thorpe etc doing buying tutorials

    Watches are usually cheaper without box and papers so buy the seller and the watch, if it’s priced right then reselling shouldn’t be a problem

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • #5649
    H_Lime
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123660122#Comment_123660122

    I'm with B on the Sinn DT, would deffo be my pick.



  • #5650
    mik_da_man
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭mik_da_man


    Definitely the Tudor for me, lovely watch.



  • #5651
    dinorebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,414 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123660122#Comment_123660122

    Sam 25? You must be from Donegal.



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  • #5652
    micks_address
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,704 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Hi folks

    I've a wooden omega box on adverts. It's a little worse for wear but if anyone interested here's the link. I think it's cheap for what it is.

    http://www.adverts.ie/37761279

    Thanks

    Mick



  • #5653
    kipple
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭kipple


    Hi all,

    Not as flashy as some of the other watches here.

    For Sale: Erebus ASCENT 39 Black Enamel

    Comes with the J-Style bracelet with original case + papers.The watch is in very good condition overall.

    Price: €280 including shipping.

    Thanks,

    Tony

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  • #5654
    emo72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,518 ✭✭✭emo72


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123660122#Comment_123660122

    If it was me I'd buy the Tudor. But that's only because I would be looking for one in the future and it would be handy for me when you get sick of it😉. I've feck all interest in box's and papers.



  • #5655
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,632 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123703457#Comment_123703457

    Yeah you'd swear some people want to wear the box on their head and the papers coming out of their jacket pocket by the way they anally insist on only buying a full set 😂

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    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #5656
    darragh o meara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭darragh o meara


    Not mine but I know the seller and he's legit.

    I know some of the Swatch Omega/Blancpain's get a bit of stick here but there are a few lovers of them among us.

    https://www.adverts.ie/sports/swatch-omega-moonswatch-mission-to-full-collection-unworn-in-plastic/37839817?notification=e863668ef2114d412023ce3dc862258c-1754579141

    https://www.adverts.ie/sports/swatch-omega-bioceramic-scuba-fifty-fathoms-complete-collection/37839930?notification=a45d6f707eaba2e22a2c00e1d305f762-1754579734



  • #5657
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,632 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123704433#Comment_123704433

    Yes I also know the seller. Nice guy and his adverts.ie reputation says it all. Nice complete sets. Could quite well be still rather collectible in years to come

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #5658
    scwazrh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123704528#Comment_123704528

    Do you think it will be collectible ?A bit too soon to be selling it either way as it probably cost him twice what he’s selling it for .Ive often wondered about my Seiko collection but at least they have a chance of some gain in the future and most are worth more than I paid but I can’t see low quality plastic quartz holding its value.



  • #5659
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,632 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123704704#Comment_123704704

    I think full sets will be collectible. It was a historic moment in the watch world and if you can get them cheap enough (a good bit cheaper than sets on eBay have sold for recently), it could gain value

    Personally I have owned a couple of the Omega ones and the one Blancpain. Total wrist time between the 3 of them about 40 seconds. And that was plenty 😂

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #5660
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123704704#Comment_123704704

    Not in the slightest collectible on the sense of being valuable.
    To be valuable they need to be rare and they sold and continue to sell a shite tonne. The batteries will have leaked into the movement before they are worth having.

    The are a stain on watch world. Another cash grab and quelle surprise they continue with release after release with a tiny colour change.



  • #5661
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123704433#Comment_123704433

    No idea what these sell as individually but it looks like he is selling them collectively cheaper. There are a million fakes of his crap out there, and the original is so crap it’s not easy tell the real from the fake (I read that some where, never seen a fake moonswatch personally ….or if I did I didn’t know know as they are all so cheap in the hand).



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  • #5662
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123660265#Comment_123660265

    I only buy with papers. Every watch I buy is a potential heirloom to be passed down and with that I want it as a full set.

    Having a full set also decreases your chance of a stolen watch. Hard enough for a thief to get a watch plus papers. And it’s grand saying buy the seller etc….the seller selling might not even know it was stolen 3 buyers ago…might have been through the hands of several very respectable gentlemen, then you buy it and take to get serviced and never see it again.

    And if not an heirloom then it’s more saleable in the end.



  • #5663
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,571 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123704847#Comment_123704847

    I was a bit taken aback by some of the reactions here.

    Clearly a lot of buyers have concerns about things like legitimacy, authenticity, resell ability. Not everyone is a watch buff, people have to start at some point. Either way its not THAT ridiculous to prefer box & papers imo.



  • #5664
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123704865#Comment_123704865

    Only real papers prove authenticity though. Easily faked but same at recognising a fake watch there will be signs in the papers and box if not real.

    Some people prefer to buy the the worst condition loose examples of a given watch. Some like unworn full sets. And eveyone else is in between.



  • #5665
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,632 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123704847#Comment_123704847

    I see where you are coming from. If you buy to collect, and never sell a watch, then yes I think I would only buy full sets too.

    But how many of us never sell watches?

    I buy watches purely to wear. And then it makes zero difference if you have box and papers. They don't add any value either in terms of the watch being genuine. And when I fancy another watch, I simply don't have the funds to keep the first one, it has to be sold. I currently own 3 watches, one of them will be up for sale soon

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #5666
    This is it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,452 ✭✭✭This is it


    Does having box and papers add value when selling? I would've thought so.



  • #5667
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,216 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123704927#Comment_123704927

    it will add value but you will also pay more

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • #5668
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,632 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    A full set is worth more than a watch only. This implies that if the watch depreciated between when you bought and when you sold, then the watch likely depreciated more if you bought a full set, so you lost more money

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • #5669
    micks_address
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,704 ✭✭✭micks_address


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123705160#Comment_123705160

    Diminishing returns, a Rolex box and cards could be worth 1k in a sale, omega maybe 300?

    I value condition over box and cards. I've yet to buy a watch that I can honestly say I'll never sell..sales are easier with full sets.

    Re the moonswatch sets..McNeely's had one last year in Belfast and they were looking for a strong price.. trying to remember but it was definitely more than the adverts set. I took a picture.. I'll see if I can find it



  • #5670
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123704927#Comment_123704927

    Zero sum game. You paid more to buy and you can sell for more.

    Boight loose and you paid less comparatively and will sell for less.



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  • #5671
    Fitz II
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    I have had watches with and without box and papers. The ones without were a pain in the arse to sell. If I had any choice and the discount was not very strong, I would go for the full set every time. Naked watches also never come with spare links. The box and papers is a reassurance the chain of ownership was mostly careful owners.

    On a AP or Patek the box and papers are about 3k is lost and with AP difficult to get back. The Patek boxes are actually worth is, they are better made than the watches.

    In a down market loose watches depreciate more cause nobody wants them in a oversupply situation.



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