Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

You cannot make a coherent argument so you resort to this.

Typical NIMBY playbook.

Once again, you are showing how unable you are to actually make a coherent argument.

Think you'll find Dublin gives considerably more than a leg-up to most of the rest of the country. No figures to support this but my impression is that the Dublin and Cork regions heavily subsidise the rest of the country.

By the way, is it your position that you want a regulatory cap on Dublin so that the airlines are forced to want to serve Shannon?

Didn't we do this already with the Shannon Stopover and found it to be economically ruinous to Irish aviation and to the rest of the country? Indeed, so bad was the policy that even the politicians understood that the stopover had to go.

It's a bit soon to be trying to revisit that kind of economic folly albeit under the guise of "passenger caps" or "noise curfews" when aircraft have never been more quiet.

Agreed, if people stop responding to the trolls then we can get back to actual discussions.

Bike shed was a waste of government money. Claiming anyone was happy with that is silly.

But you do realise that Dublin Airport is privately funded by DAA. If the airport is restricted from developing, that money doesn’t suddenly become availible for Shannon.
If it was commercially viable to expand Shannon, the operators are free to do so. Why would Dublin need to be restricted first.

For example, Cork approaching its max capacity is going to expand to 5m. thanks to a leg up from…Dublin Airport Authority…ironically.

Meh. I couldn’t care less if anyone is trolling. I dint think they were fwiw. But It’s easy to dismiss the points with basic facts.
Posting about feeding trolls on repeat adds nothing imo

It will wreck the Aer Lingus operation if the airport is forced to close overnight.

The rate before the new runway was activated was in the region of 90-100 movements on the southern runway. I get why the new runway doesn't open until 7am, but cutting the current rate on the southern runway which has been operating for almost 40 years makes no sense whatsoever.

But the whole issue is only 65 flights per night condition was from 2007.
You can't really argue that we've been flying 100 for years, when you were doing so in breach of a planning condition you knew about (bit of a loophole that it was only activated when the runway as complete)

I've no info on historical numbers. But I'd be surprised if they were flying 90-100 per night 40 years ago. I'd assume it's only recently got to that level, but I don't know

No, but the 2007 planning condition says:

"On completion of construction of the runway hereby permitted, the average number of night time aircraft movements at the airport shall not exceed 65/night (between 2300 hours and 0700 hours) when measured over the 92 day modelling period as set out in the reply to the further information request received by An Bord Pleanála on the 5th day of March, 2007.

Reason: To control the frequency of night flights at the airport so as to protect residential amenity having regard to the information submitted concerning future night time use of the existing parallel runway."

So there was nothing, prior to the completion of the new runway, to limit the number of movements between 2300 and 0700 (using the now runway 10R/28L). The fact that the wording says "completion" rather than, say, "commencement of operation" suggests a less than meticulous drafting of the decision, and it was a real hostage to fortune for planners to assume (if they did) that the 65-movements limit would not be meaningfully exceeded prior to the new runway being brought into use.

As mentioned, the 65 limit only applied upon completion of the north runway. Nonsensical.

https://www.independent.ie/business/planning-watchdog-reverses-plan-to-cut-night-time-flights-at-dublin-airport/a1586596701.html

In the ruling issued today, however, An Coimisiún Pleanála said that the airport will now be subject to a noise quota scheme, and agreed with revised calculations that an annual cap of 35,672 night-time aircraft movements at Dublin Airport “would be appropriate”.

It said that number will allow the airport to grow, “while providing an essential safeguard against excessive night-time activity”.

23:00-07:00 period covers the 35k per year but new runway can hours are restricted from 00:00-06:00 only.

Sitll as they didn't get the peak 06:00-07:00 removed from the night cap (65 to 95) that is slightly limiting. Between 23:00-07:00 tomorrow 90+ but at least the cap is annually caculated and not seasonal.

It would be good to read the full document. Some details not covered in that article.