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Another ridiculous suspended sentence handed out

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    IMO the state of the prisons should not be a factor in sentencing. It's a cop out from judges. They should give an appropriate sentence and leave it up to the prison service to put them somewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭mikethecop


    Kildare man involved in headbutt attack at garda station says ‘alcohol is my kryptonite’ - SundayWorld.com

    ''Martin had 180 previous convictions for offences including criminal damage and attempted robbery.''

    Just the 180 previous, perhaps he should quit drinking and deal with his ''trauma '' like a adult or be confined until he does



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,645 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    A perfect example of the sort of gobdaw who needs to be removed from society if he cannot or will not function in society.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,732 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    What happens currently is that the Prison Service release someone coming to the end of their sentence to make room.

    Without an increase in spaces it's hard to see any other way.

    So it's release one from their appropriate sentence to put in another to serve their appropriate sentence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,315 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Does Kryptonite make Superman lose the head?

    Not your ornery onager



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,334 ✭✭✭amacca


    No, if anything it makes him much more docile/weak and unable to rob or headbutt the good citizens of metropolis (with devastating consequences) that he claims he protect!…so it was a poor analogy IMHO...

    I'll attempt some slightly better probably worse one

    Alcohol is like my bad acid trip where I become a different person yer honor with no responsibility for my actions...please to be giving me a lenient sentence, I promise the 181st time will be the charm

    Or perhaps

    He's a dedicated antisocial scumbag and it's a good analogy...maybe the 181 were the only ones he got caught for and he would have gotten away with those too if it wasn't for the demon drink blunting his nefarious master criminal abilities....perhaps he has successfully perpetrated a much broader and more wide ranging anti social and criminal spree which has so far gone undetected and this quote is actually a very sophisticated form of mocking our society and criminal justice system while acknowledging his own failings and reflecting in a bitter sweet fashion on just how successful a scumbag he could have been if he wasn't fond of the auld gargle!

    tbh it wouldn't surprise me if 181 was only the tip of the iceberg they way we encourage scumbags here.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,863 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    180 times caught. You'd think he'd have learned some method of not being caught after maybe 50 times?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭mikethecop


    Mealy words form a judge who immediately betrays his own sentiments

    ‘People who assault gardaí can expect prison. It’s as simple as that': Judge to man who spat in garda's eye | Irish Independent

    ''Judge Aylmer convicted Mallon under Section 19 of the Criminal Justice (Public Order) Act 1994, imposing a nine-month sentence, reduced to eight months to reflect the early guilty plea.

    He suspended four months for 12 months on condition that Mallon engage fully with the Probation Service, participate in a Restorative Justice programme and address alcohol misuse, violent and criminal damage behaviours. The court requested a final exit report.''

    9 months down to eight for admitting to something that he very clearly did on cctv.

    then half's it to provide an incentive for another pathetic man child (38 previous) who hides his own weakness behind excuses and a simpering solicitor.

    this man is nothing but a parasite



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Why even try. He gets off scot free when he gets caught anyway. 🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 967 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    ”Removed from society “ . And him with a mere 180 previous offers ! . How would all our “ learned friends “ exist or make a living if it wasn’t for people like him. That’s 180 convictions so how many remands, delays, days in court etc etc has this person racked up all of which Joe and Josephine publicly are paying for.

    Please. Will someone have a little sympathy for the judiciary and what might happen to them if more prison places were provided.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭dubdamo


    Now the idiots are talking about closing a prison, Arbour Hill, in the middle of an overcrowding crisis, absolutely clueless.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,863 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    'the idiots' have stated that would only be possible by creating a 'suitable replacement facility'.

    Also

    It said consideration should be given to prioritising further development of Portlaoise Prison as well as the proposed expansion of the Midlands Prison in Portlaoise.

    https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1522100/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Dublin Calling


    Thornton Hall was the replacement when the Joy did not meet modern standards and was to be closed. Actually a modern supermax would save the State a fortune in manpower costs. The ratio of prisoners to staff in the Joy is huge vs an American Supermax. We could double/treble the American Supermax staff numbers and still save a fortune.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,645 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    AKA the parochial house because there's so many priests in there. It's all sex offenders and weirdos

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,277 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Read last week that Simon McGinley was released. This man raped and impregnated a 13 year old child in 1997, resulting in the C case, and then when released from this sentence, he raped and terrorized an 85 year old lady suffering with Alzheimer's in 2008. Somebody like this is the dictionary definition of a menace to society. Life for the first rape would have been the appropriate sentence

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/double-rapist-simon-mcginley-back-32000124



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,277 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Spot on….judges do your job, and leave prison spaces and where to put prisoners up tp those in charge in these areas!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,295 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Takes a live and just gets over 4 years and Lynn Ruane provides a letter of support, these letters of support and character references, should not be allowed, Marty off Nolan needs to be gone from the bench

    Ormond’s 53 previous convictions included 24 road traffic offences, including one for dangerous driving from 2002. While Ormond had an insurance policy on the car, it had lapsed due to non-payment of the premium.

    Judge Martin Nolan told Garret Baker SC defending on Wednesday, after evidence was heard, that as he sees it there are three aggravating factors in the case; the speed Ormond was travelling, the fact that he had adequate time to see the red light and yet he didn’t respond and leaving the scene.

    The judge suggested to counsel that Ormond’s motivation to leave the scene was because he knew he had broken a red light.

    Counsel replied that his instructions were that Ormond reacted in “a blind panic”.

    Judge Nolan acknowledged that there was “no doubt” that Ormond is remorseful but noted that all other road users that day saw the situation with the traffic lights and “obeyed the situation”.

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-43-jailed-for-leaving-scene-of-a-fatal-accident-after-he-knocked-down-an-elderly-woman-1782081.html

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2025/07/09/jail-term-for-man-who-received-pandemic-unemployment-payment-from-six-others/

    Chronically unemployed, criminal history, nothing but a drain on the exchequer

    Deport please



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Criminals, especially violent ones and pedos must be grinning from ear to ear when they see Martin Nolan will be trying their case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,277 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    saw the “heads” heading into court on tv the other day. Ruane and a letter of support. Why am I not surprised..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,181 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Just reading about the C and X cases on Wikipedia.

    Hard to comprehend.

    Post edited by SuperBowserWorld on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,991 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    That's obviously put a massive dent into any potential presidential election she might be thinking of running in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Sounds like back-pedalling to me. If she wanted to show her support for Ormond she could have simply told him that to his face. Any letter handed into court is 100% trying to influence the judge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,295 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    They why offer it, very much back peddling, these letters should not be allowed

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭donaghs


    Some will say these were non-violent offenses etc. But I don't think this is an overall positive for Irish society

    "hundreds-of-prisoners-released-early-to-ease-overcrowding"

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/hundreds-of-prisoners-released-early-to-ease-overcrowding/a605869613.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,645 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's been obvious for quite a few years now that we need a new large prison.

    WTF was the point of Ruane's letter if it wasn't trying to get lenient treatment for that utter scumbag?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,645 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I was too young to vote then, but unless you lived through the utter craziness of the 8th amendment campaign in 1983 you couldn't believe it happened. The whole country lost its fúcking mind. Mary Robinson predicted everything that would happen, but wasn't listened to.

    I'm glad though that that **** Binchy lived long enough to see his life's work left in ruins and utterly rejected by the Irish people.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Deport please



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    https://x.com/sundayworld/status/1944655602858234016



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