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Metrolink - Alternative Routes - See post one for restrictions.

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  • #212
    Brightlights66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭Brightlights66


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123580828#Comment_123580828

    What is the 'BC file'? And where is 'here', i.e. where is it posted?

    After much thought, I am currently thinking that 'BC' may be 'business case', but you know that that is not what I seek: an up to date map of workplaces in Dublin.

    In the modern day you would think that such a comprehensive map would exist and be publicly available and easily accessible.

    Any such map, post-COVID, would - you would hope - give some indication of the workers who are actually in the workplace on any given day: Microsoft (for example) in Leopardstown may employ, say, (just off the top of my head) 3,000 people, but the numbers travelling into the office, and out of it, on any day, may now be just 2,000. Prior to COVID it was 3,000 both ways, every day.

    On an older workplace map of Dublin which I saw, around 2006 - produced by the University of Maynooth and linked to, for boards.ie readers, by the excellent poster Monument, the concept of WFH had not even been dreamt of.



  • #213
    Brightlights66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭Brightlights66


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123581883#Comment_123581883

    "…the second rail connection" to the airport?

    Even for this thread, we now seem to be entering wholly uncharted levels of fantasy.



  • #214
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,431 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583513#Comment_123583513

    Well, a second rail connection could be an extension of the Luas via Fingals. Or it could be a second Metro from Dublin SW. Or even a Dart or IC extension of some sort. Who knows.

    Before we have a second rail connection, there must be a first. Let us hope that happens soon.



  • #215
    spillit67
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭spillit67


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583417#Comment_123583417

    The Bus Connects demand file repeatedly mentioned on this thread.



  • #216
    Brightlights66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭Brightlights66


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123585981#Comment_123585981

    Thanks.

    But those busconnects give an overall picture. The one we had in the past gave workplace figures for each individual ward, and allowed you to zoom in to specific places to get detailed figures of both numbers of workers and numbers of residents in each area. Such a map must still exist - Jarrett Walker and his team didn't come up with those figures by themselves.



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  • #217
    Brightlights66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭Brightlights66


    Those numbers are important. As I've mentioned, I don't live in Dublin, but my (very limited) experience of the Green Line south of the canal shows me that it can readily handle the demand for those heading south (to Sandyford/Cherrywood) in the morning peak and heading north (from Sandyford/Cherrywood) in the evening peak, and should be able to do so for many years to come. When/if the time comes that there are excessive numbers making such journeys, there is still plenty of scope to increase tram throughput, link it up with other tram lines which may have been developed in the interim, etc.

    The focus, I believe, should thus be on improving journeys into the city in the morning, and out of the city in the evening, with improved journeys to/from important workplaces like Sandyford, Cherrywood and Tallaght being obvious beneficiaries of that approach. Closing the Green Line for, say, a year - which is the obvious next step beyond building the metrolink to Charlemont - would achieve nothing beyond a new name.

    The residential numbers in the southwest suburbs are mostly much higher than they are along the Green Line south of the canal (as shown above, thanks to the readily accessible figures on census.ie). 4,000's and 3,000's (per sq.km) are the norm in the southwest, versus mostly 2,000's and 3,000's along the Green Line.

    I think the metrolink is broadly a wonderful plan, which will radically change many lives for the better. But it baffles me why Ireland would be, as part of this fine project, aiming to replace an existing line which is functioning well, and with tweaking could be functioning very well, instead of pressing on with providing very improved public transport to other large chunks of the city. The phrase I used above was 'that the authorities are trying to get several kilometres of metro on the cheap'. It still looks that way.



  • #218
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,938 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123586224#Comment_123586224

    but my (very limited) experience of the Green Line south of the canal shows me that it can readily handle the demand for those heading south (to Sandyford/Cherrywood) in the morning peak and heading north (from Sandyford/Cherrywood) in the evening peak, and should be able to do so for many years to come

    Well duh?

    The phrase I used above was 'that the authorities are trying to get several kilometres of metro on the cheap'. It still looks that way.

    That is literally the plan yes. And that is a good thing.



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