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Upfront with Katie Hannon

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,726 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


     Claire Brock or Clara Doherty

    Have either of them surfaced anywhere else since TV3?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    The plan was to keep all News and CA in house with Fair City and TLLS moving out, but it looks to me like they are dropping the Monday night Panel and Audience show in favour of Daily Group Chats (which gets 3 episodes per week already) and clarity which they already said is on a largely ad-hoc basis.

    @FrancieBrady haven't seen either since they left TV3.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,566 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    I don't listen to her on podcasts but if she's as boring as she is on presenting Upfront, I can't imagine it gets many listeners.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It and the actual group chat from VMTV is a cacophony of cackling journalist saying very little about nothing in what they consider to be a humorous human everyday manner.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,566 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The Group Chat is particularly embarrassing. You can see why so many Irish people prefer British and American podcasters.

    Edit: a quick look at the top 100 podcasts in Ireland and The Group Chat is not even in the list. I'm open to correction but this is clearly embarrassing and one suspects the presenters are not paid anything for it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,219 ✭✭✭corkie


    It did not have great audience figures?

    In its most recent series, which aired from 24 September to 25 May, Upfront with Katie Hannon was watched by an average of 198,000 viewers, a 25.8% audience share, up from an average of 168,000 and 23.7% in series two.

    Similarly, the series grew on the RTÉ Player, attracting 269,000 streams in series three, from 209,000 in series two.

    Clips from the programme have also generated over 3.3 million video views on Instagram.

    From rte article posted earlier.

    Is it strange that the thread is now getting more replies than usual, now that it has been canceled?

    Still remember the below from the last series?

    Does Netflix's Adolescence paint a realistic picture?

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭AJB39


    Ciara Doherty has just started presenting a new Podcast called “Newstalk Daily” for Newstalk. I’m not sure what Claire Brock is doing now.

    Post edited by AJB39 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It generally was doing as well as its predecessors, for some reason no one in RTÉ didn't think to revert back to the old Q&A style of audience participation. Those figures also show the decline of TV and RTÉ's inability to attract people to its player. If there are 30 episodes per year that's under 9k per episode, your not getting your TV audience back with those numbers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Jim Cryton


    Katie Hannon and Catriona Perry. Just cannot understand the hype around these two. They are a typically useless Irish public sector product. Go off script for just a second and suddenly they're like a deer in headlights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,341 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Would that be the Caitriona Perry who is currently employed by the BBC as chief news presenter in Washington DC ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 GarneyX


    Why don't RTE shows like this have the likes of The Burkes from Castlebar and John and Gemma on so that they can be heard and debated?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    It was an awful programme. Katie Hannon seemed unable to keep control of the debate, allowing panellists to shout over each other and ignore her constantly. There was a horrible awkward amateur vibe to the whole thing and she seemed way too casual and unpolished in her presentation. I'd like to see Sarah McInerney host a similar programme instead. I hate Virgin's current affairs coverage so I hope RTE have a replacement. Vincent Browne is sorely missed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Yes, and just because you are on the BBC does necessary mean you are good at your job, Jon Williams form Head of RTÉ news once worked for the BBC, can we can safely he was on the Pigs back in RTÉ and not doing much more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,435 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Those figures were average ones, so I assume that was figures PER SHOW.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,341 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    The BBC has over 20,000 employees so it's probably safe to assume they have a good few duds on their books.

    Having said that I think they probably have a certain level of confidence in the ability of the person they appointed as chief news anchor in Washington DC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    You would think that ABC would as have a good idea of a good person like Jon William but it was all about the money, like most executives in RTÉ.

    I have no real opinion of Perry, she's at the end of the day a news anchor. Good luck to her, obviously the Irish market was too small for her to grow any further, once that happens RTÉ shouldn't be trying to retain such people rather be happy they will be able to get another Perry off the ground.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    No it says series not episodes

    Similarly, the series grew on the RTÉ Player, attracting 269,000 streams in series three, from 209,000 in series two.

    That's a total not an average.

    But happy to be corrected but it would put the series at the top of the streaming programmes

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/rte-player-has-most-successful-year-with-142-million-streams-in-2024-1716180.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭fire_man


    I find her very bland.Listened to podcast once and very safe and did not entice me back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,199 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    It was a very bland and dull current affairs show. Starting with the presenter who is maybe better off behind the camera.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭B2021M


    Even on Liveline she seems unsure what to say almost every time she speaks. Not a natural presenter.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,152 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    She's not the greatest, but I hope they haven't just given up on the idea of a current affairs programme in that timeslot altogether.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,241 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Exactly, veery nervous. Like a person who is chairing a parish hall meeting for the first time. You need a certain gravitas and confidence to carry a show like that on your own. Have to be able to challenge guests and the panel.
    There is a programme on the BBC presented by Victoria Derbyshire. Who thinks quick on her feet and does not let politicians away with spurious statements.

    Hannon on the other hand, seemed to more view herself as a facilitator. Always seemed relieved when each show was over.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,344 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    Katie was excellent at presenting The Late Debate on RTE News Channel and RTE Radio 1, so the right format for her is probably more that kind of format, two or three people debating a contentious topic and her directing the debate. She was very good at pulling people up on waffle and reminding them of the key points of the debate.
    Colm Ó Mongáin is also excellent at that now on The Late Debate (Tues/Weds/Thurs 10-11 p.m.)

    The Upfront format would be better if it was restricted to one episode per month, and tackle only bigger current affairs such as the delays with the children's hospital, delays with the roll out of major roads and infastructure projects, delays with housing developments and bring all the top TD's in to be grilled, having facts to hand ready to go and all parties prepped ready to give their responses. The key part of the show is having audience members with relatable stories to hammer home to the politicians where the public are being left down. With enough time to get the word out about the topic, the shows producers should be able to fill the studio audience with people that are passionate about the topic.

    Each month should be a chance to grill the minister for a department with the opposition on hand to make them sweat over unfulfilled promises and bad decisions. Justice, Education, Housing, Finance etc.

    The shows that want to tackle social issues such as that episode lamenting that young men don't know how to be men in the modern world don't work, just aren't really enough to get an audience. That's more something for a midday talk show to bluster on about.

    What will pull the audience is the TD's being grilled over issues that the common public would be incensed about. Give the opposition a chance to stick the knife in and hold them to account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,726 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The Upfront format would be better if it was restricted to one episode per month, and tackle only bigger current affairs

    Yeh, it was a big production fault. Too many topics on one show.
    I also think those type of 'audience' current affairs programmes have to have a sense of jeopardy, that topics can go anywhere. They need a freedom that I don't think the national broadcaster is willing to give anymore for whatever reason.
    Earlier versions had it IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Not sure about a monthly show TBH, there is no reason why a Q&A type programmed can be produced on a weekly basis, the problem lies with the producers trying to fit everything in rather than allowing it to flow more generally with a group of politicians.

    The series was hobbled by having a panel and then in the audience having an expert in the audience, that's not really audience participation.

    You could do an audience show as they had done with Derek Davis, which was the format of the presenter talking with a group and experts about issues of the day.

    What Frontline et al wanted to do was to mix both together.

    Here is a panel, and we have a second panel or guest after the break, and in our audience we have prof so and so from such and such what do you think prof are the panel right, well Katie they aren't wrong and they aren't right either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,344 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    Showing my age, but 10:35 p.m. is too late, why couldn't the show have aired straight after the news at 9:30 when most people still have the energy to watch it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,726 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Suspicion would be that RTE don’t really care about viewership and actual public broadcasting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Doesn't it jump around depending on what RTÉ are putting out on a Monday night? It did on occasion air at 9:35, but docs and crimecall take that spot when they are on the air.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,929 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Unfortunately she was totally biased in the chair

    All she wanted was gather a group of dissidents and turn them on some poor Govt. TD whilst cheerleading from the sidelines.

    Straight out of the Vinnie Browne playbook, I would suggest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,726 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    ’dissidents’??? 🙈🙈

    Meaning there is only one true view allowed, no doubt. 😁



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