Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

Like I said it's a side comment which is being focused in because my main point was rock solid.

Looks like Tulsi Gabbard might be pushed overboard:

“As we stand here today, closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than ever before,” she says in the video.

The clip continues, with Gabbard warning that "political elites and warmongers are carelessly fomenting fear and tension between nuclear powers."

Trump reportedly had a problem with her comments. According to sources who spoke to the Times, Trump took Gabbard's video as a sign she was only using her time in his White House as a stepping stone. He reportedly told her if she wanted to run for president then she shouldn't be in his administration.

His issues with Gabbard — who according to CBS was among the officials in the Situation Room Saturday — became more obvious after Trump was forced to respond to testimony she gave in March in which she said Iran was not pursuing nuclear weapons through its refinement efforts.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tulsi-gabbard-trump-situation-room-iran-b2774707.html

Netanarshole played him like the moron he is.

Take a wild guess where most of the oil from gulf goes to?

That’s right, China

Pete Hegseth made a BIG DEAL about all the planning that went into the B52s / bunker busting bombs and attacking IRAN. We all knew that something was up over a week ago - that The US was preparing.
so why was it necessary to fly some bombers over the pacific for decoy reasons m turn off responders, etc, etc, etc, when Israel and the US declared some time ago that Israel had achieved complete control over the Iran skies and knocked out all of its air defence setups. I was reminded of the concept of breaking a nut with a sledgehammer but a steamroller was used here by the US. The US said that it used 75 planes in the operation and NONE of them were were shot down - hard to believe this and is it because it is true that Israel had completely neutralised IRANS air defence capabilities

I asked the enrichment question a while ago & no one answered because there isn't an answer. They have enriched way above the level needed unless you are trying to build a bomb.

So, turns out you were wrong. And not for the first time.

How anyone could think Trump was going to pass up an opportunity to show off his shiny bombers, particularly against an adversary that can't strike back at the US, is a mystery to me.

Iran was fully complying with the deal they negotiated with Obama, then Trump tore up the agreement and directly attacked Iran and then Israel and America both attacked Iran directly (Trump in 2020 with his assassination of Soleimani)

Iran needed to develop some kind of deterrent or even a bargaining chip if it came to renegotiating a new deal

That is why they were enriching Uranium. They were nowhere near actually having a bomb, and and even further from having anything that could deliver a bomb.

Ironically, they're much much closer having something now that the Russians have floated just giving them a few fully functioning warheads https://www.newsweek.com/russia-says-countries-now-ready-supply-iran-nuclear-weapons-2088979

(even if such a suggestion remains very implausible, its a higher chance of Iran actually getting a nuclear weapon than they were at before the attack)

Of course. Netanyahu is on the hook in his own country. But so long as there's a crisis, manufactured by him or not, he gets to avoid any legal entanglements. It's the reason why he broke the ceasefire in Gaza and the reason why he's expanded chaos in the region elsewhere.

Has anyone figured out where the trucks with the withdrawn material have taken it? I'm assuming they did have another location to store it and not keep driving the trucks around in circles. The US and others MUST have been watching the original sites and seen the use of the trucks to remove the material. Has it been moved beyond reach into a friendly nation in the area?

Who knows. They could have sold to Pakistan for one dollar and will buy back later for two dollars.

all very anecdotal but there seems to be a big push back on Israel or possibly just supporting it from within America including a lot of conservatives. This could be a big mis step by Trump. All rights and wrongs aside it seems this is the closest he’s come to splitting the party.

About 30% goes to China. I just find it ironic that after the US illegally bombs Iran and after declaring a trade war on China, the US have to ask China to talk to Iran about keeping the straight open.

"Apparently, even JD Vance was opposed to the bombing of Iran and felt Trump was being used by Netanyahu."

JD Vance compared Trump to Hitler, and then took the position of VP, so Vance has history of saying what he believes is true and then abandoning it completely when power comes knocking

And none goes to US so they don’t care. Especially since they pump out more than Saudis by now

Closing the straights only turns Iran from having one large problem to having half a dozen large problems as they then be **** about with economies of gulf states that are armed to the teeth and the East Asian consumers of gulf oil

The last time Iran tried to **** about their whole navy was sank in rapid order

To quote the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/23/what-is-the-strait-of-hormuz-iran-threat-close-global-trade-oil-shipping

“But it would also be an act of dramatic economic self-harm. Iranian oil uses the same gateway, and shutting Hormuz risks bringing Gulf Arab states, who have been highly critical of the Israeli attack, into the war to safeguard their own interests.

In particular, closing the strait would significantly harm China. The world’s second-largest economy buys almost 90% of Iran’s oil exports, which are subject to international sanctions.

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Once again closing the straights only ensures Iran endsup in conflict with countries who stayed out of this

Saudis alone has a military larger and as well equipped as Israel

They won’t sit back and have their economy destroyed by mad Shia mullahs they hate