Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

I'm trying to understand how people can be so biased. It has to be either ideology by choice or a deep lack of understanding of the situation.

Not likely, unless they want to be the star of "Team America 2: Axis of Assholes" they will likely keep provoking, get their shít slapped then eventually relent and throw in the towel once they realise they gotta take the L's in order to just stay alive.

Vance - it's not about regime change

Trump - hold my diet coke

As of now it's ballistic program covers Israel but there were plans I believe to develop missile's with an 8k range.

I'm not sure continuing to pursue a nuke is a good idea. Israel and the US have wiped out a nuclear program that took decades to get to this point. Air defences badly compromised and their air force crippled. Their allies (Russia) not helping. Drone and ballistic facilities damaged or destroyed. Multiple top army commanders and scientists kaput. They have them by the balls. The regime must feel like they've awoken from their worst nightmare.

Mossad and other intelligent agencies will know if they try to rebuild the program in persuit of the bomb. Why would they let it happen and reach this point again.

Iran has a few options but nuclear fantasies shouldn't be one of them.

Yeah, Netanyahu fairly got behind Trump in the last few months of the election after Harris tried to take a position on Israel that tried to please everyone and ended up pleasing no one.

People forget that the son in law still has Trump's ear and he's got to be one of the most pro-Israel individuals in Trump's royal court.

The nuclear threat is a Israeli fantasy to keep the US interested. The US thinks it's Tom Cruise saving the world.

More likely Israel is running low on arms with it's genocide campaign in Gaza so needed to create a way to suck the US back in, hence their attack on Iran.

Iran may still have most of the fissile material they've been able to manufacture. We can be fairly sure they got it out of Fordow. I have to think they did the same at their other facilities as well. They may be set back but not quite to square one.

I'm sure the Iranian regime would like to rethink their stance on Israel and just get on with things, but it's a central tenet of their platform.

Good point and it looks like the Americans waited until they'd potentially cleared the uranium from Fordow? Potentially to stop nuclear material leaking out. Next lost the means to develop it for now but what's next. Will the US/Israel demand it be handed over or will they track it and try take it by force?

Well China is lucky no county is bombing Iran right now…. Israel can easily put an end to that railway.

But that 90% from Iran is only 16% of their total imports. 1.8 mil out of 11.8 mil barrels. China also have a strategic reserve of 400 mil barrels, so they can go without Iranian oil for quite some time.

DONAKD

Anyone that can't spell his own name or, at the very least, spell check it shouldn't be in the position that he's in.

Christ, I'm more careful when I make decisions in a computer game.

No. It wasn't.

Feel free to counter rather than get side tracked over the world Left.

The discussion about the abortion and divorce referendum was quickly dropped. You can't make an argument about progressive rights of that Islamic regime and ignore all the brutality. It's at a point like that I start questioning are people on the far left. Because it's so obvious wrong and ridiculous to say. Anyway, no counter arguments have been made you'll hear from me if someone can formulate one not based off feelings but fact.

They're not arguments that I made and I'm not about to start defending talking points I didn't even bring up.

The point I made was about Mossadegh, the Shah and the outside actors (US/UK) that were at play with regards to the internal politics of Iran…

…and you replied with "tHe lEfT".

You don't even know which poster you're talking to, so we really are done at this point.

Also BiBi needs war to stay out of Jail. He has put off his cross exam in his trial for as long as possible. Got out of his last 2 appearances by suddenly being sick and having to take a important diplomatic call.

"Iran is the place it is today precisely because of interference by outside actors. The same outside actors that are banging on about "regime change" once again."

The biggest outside actors who created regime change for the Persians were the Islamic arabs which is still effecting them till today , thanks to the 1979 revolution which was assisted by left wing activists.

You ignored this point and focused on left wingers because you know it's true. We're done here because you've nothing to say.

At the same time @yagan acting like it's been a good thing because Sharia and Islam allow abortions and divorce.