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Tesla Talk 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭sk8board


    And yet no one asked him “so you’re covering the insurance liability”.
    God he’s such an absolute liar. It’s relentless 🥱



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭6.5x55 seller ammo


    It’s a tough spot, the share price is intrinsically linked to his statements and to recognise as nonsense would effectively take the stock down to what it realistically should be - a midsized car company.

    Too many small retail stock holders and institutional investors are effectively beholden to this nonsensical scenario - otherwise they’ll loose their money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭sk8board


    that’s true, but Tesla still has to ‘eventually’ deliver revenue commensurate to the share price. It can’t just trundle along at a p/e of 190 forever.
    Ai players like Meta, Google & Microsoft have similar visions to Tesla on this and have average p/e around 25 today. Tesla is out of sync with the market it’s in (cars) and also out of sync with the market it says it’s in.

    Tesla has 3 projects that have delivered massive revenue since its inception:

    Model3, model Y, the energy business.

    Nothing since 2019



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭soverybored1878


    I'm currently looking at Model 3's, used from within the last few years. 2021 being the oldest.

    Have a question. Is the long range worth it on the Model 3's? I would occasionally do long range trips but maybe only once a month. Besides the bigger battery, AWD and slightly better performance, are there any other differences and is it really worth the extra to spring for a LR? Would I miss it if I didn't?

    Also wondering if this is a decent buy? Haven't seen many blue ones… - https://www.tynanmotors.ie/vehicle?id=1bwKR



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭sk8board


    driven economically, the newer battery in the RWD is very efficient, and not far off the older chemistry in the LR battery.

    That’s not a bad price on a high mileage car , we had a price listing in the bargains thread a few days ago of the same car and mileage without the performance alloys for €22k



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭September1


    Longest drive in I had in old M3 RWD was 1250km, it took 2 hours of charging in total on the way. Maybe determined driver could do it better, but I was with family and some charging stops were a bit too long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭soverybored1878


    Thanks, RWD might be the way to go I guess. Don't tend to do super long trips usually although in my job I would have a month or so each year where I was on the road.

    Obviously this car is sitting relatively comfortably in the battery and drivetrain mileage but would it be prone to any other issues (headlights etc.) that cost me in the long run now that it's out of general warranty? Currently driving a 2020 E-Tron which has pretty much died on me (motor replacement needed) and I'm starting to feel that it's a bit of a timebomb when it comes to repairs costs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭soverybored1878


    That's mad. Where were you driving to? Was it comfortable enough?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭September1


    It was in Germany and Belgium and it is very comfortable car for longer journeys. It is very stable and smooth drive on motorways even at 200km/h or in windy conditions. I think though you will miss higher sitting position and ground clearane from Etron.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,222 ✭✭✭zg3409


    If driving long distances beyond home charger range you need to rely on the public charging network to get back home. On main motorways it's mostly not an issue if you plan but if you head off the main roads you may struggle to find a faster charger in many areas and at peak summer times touristy areas can have all chargers busy. Lean real world high speed motorway range and where you might need to charge for typical longer work trips. Plugshare app lists all know public chargers but you may want the faster orange ones and sites with 2+ units so risk of a queue is low.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    Is a 2019 Model X a bad investment at this stage? The child inside me would love a gull wing car once in my life and there's a low mileage model x up north that has caught me eye.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,326 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Is it the one in mccuddy's motors? Been for sale ages so should get a good discount if so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,326 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    At merlins this morning a really bad exterior condition model 162 S70 sold at 13k approx, with all the fees etc that's 14k, someone way overpaid!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Hadn't seen one on the roads for a while and had forgotten how much it looks like a giant Model Y from some angles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭sk8board


    it’s an interesting point, I used to see a few around my area, but haven’t seen even one now for ages. The car reg data says there were 102 registered here new



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,326 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    That's nice, the wrap is a personal choice. My own X75 a couple of years ago I sold because the range didn't suit me at the time, I was getting 220-235km of motorway driving from 100% and I was getting home with zero in the winter. Lovely car other than that and I'd have another in a heartbeat as my use case changed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    I'd only be doing that kind of trip 5-6 times a year so it might suit my purposes. I know a more recent M3 would make eminently more sense but still...



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Nice car. I like nardo grey and it can be removed should you ever wish.

    I had a P100DL for a week in 6 seater form while my old Model S P85+ got its battery replaced. Loved it. Kids loved it. And had acres of space.

    I’d fear one out of warranty and the one you linked looks to have the yellow screen edges which is the LCD fluid leaking. It can’t be fixed and will get worse. Needs a new screen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,181 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Very low mileage. The wrap looks decent too and could obviously be removed if the original colour was nicer. 5 seat is probably the only negative in terms of resale. Any way to extend the warranty on these with Tesla ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    Well spotted! Yeah if it was the six seater I'd already be on my way north tbh!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Would there much extra to worry about with a Model X vs a Model S of a similar age?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,326 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    The model x as a used car does not make sense. It never did and I spent 70k on mine!

    The logical choice is of course a Y as it is newer with less to go wrong and more warranty

    Now that we're past that, the X is a completely better car and if the range usually suits I'd go for it. Especially if theres a reliable charger site on route.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭JOL1


    Seems a reasonable approach to me not a S***show (to have a Safety driver sitting in a passenger seat) for what is first trials, with emphasis on safety and a feedback loop…it is a "test" phase

    https://x.com/farzyness/status/1936875823841296576?s=46&t=HMw5ZVtUzMq4snu7xibMnw&fbclid=IwY2xjawLFQV9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFmZGY0Y09SYjE1WWJVZDRxAR5FASkK6OZkvFfOiblDxmmlAQfC9X8zjQgOSVuCYg4lXruXqcAgVJYqPpf_xw_aem_Kjq4D7vdIpB5kxbI3p2y5A



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭prosaic


    LOL, depends on where you read your content.

    Actually, most media have been fairly to highly negative about Tesla for a while now, and not in a well-researched journalism kind of way.

    I've been doing a Google news scan for Tesla and Tesla fsd for a month or two, filtered to last 24 hrs. It's 95% rehashed negative spin without real basis, or loosely based on facts. Electrek is one of the funniest, considering it's supposed to be supportive of EV industry. Very single-mindedly out to dis Tesla.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    They have started or they haven’t started?

    I’m still not convinced, but then again, I wouldn’t use a Waymo either.

    IMG_1740.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,755 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    I'd probably be more likely to trust an autonomous car in the US, with their grid layouts and mostly traffic-light controlled junctions. But I can't imagine trusting a robotaxi without proper LIDAR and Radar systems like the Teslas seem to have.

    Beyond that, the one thing I always think about when I'm using the Level 2 assistance on my car is that automating a car without any form of LIDAR or Radar through roundabouts seems like a near impossibility to me. I suspect it'll be a long, long time before anyone seriously tries to tackle fully autonomous driving in Europe - regardless of whether regulations allow it or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭JOL1


    They have started and although small scale it is an impressive first start (see embedded link above ) for what is an initial test



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,200 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    You don't think people aren't trying to seriously tackle it right now?



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