At merlins this morning a really bad exterior condition model 162 S70 sold at 13k approx, with all the fees etc that's 14k, someone way overpaid!
No this one https://www.usedcarsni.com/2019-TESLA-Model-X-245kW-75kWh-Dual-Motor-5dr-Auto-370626425?make=807&model=201211164&search_type=1
Hadn't seen one on the roads for a while and had forgotten how much it looks like a giant Model Y from some angles.
it’s an interesting point, I used to see a few around my area, but haven’t seen even one now for ages. The car reg data says there were 102 registered here new
That's nice, the wrap is a personal choice. My own X75 a couple of years ago I sold because the range didn't suit me at the time, I was getting 220-235km of motorway driving from 100% and I was getting home with zero in the winter. Lovely car other than that and I'd have another in a heartbeat as my use case changed.
I'd only be doing that kind of trip 5-6 times a year so it might suit my purposes. I know a more recent M3 would make eminently more sense but still...
Nice car. I like nardo grey and it can be removed should you ever wish.
I had a P100DL for a week in 6 seater form while my old Model S P85+ got its battery replaced. Loved it. Kids loved it. And had acres of space.
I’d fear one out of warranty and the one you linked looks to have the yellow screen edges which is the LCD fluid leaking. It can’t be fixed and will get worse. Needs a new screen.
Very low mileage. The wrap looks decent too and could obviously be removed if the original colour was nicer. 5 seat is probably the only negative in terms of resale. Any way to extend the warranty on these with Tesla ?
Well spotted! Yeah if it was the six seater I'd already be on my way north tbh!
Would there much extra to worry about with a Model X vs a Model S of a similar age?
The model x as a used car does not make sense. It never did and I spent 70k on mine!
The logical choice is of course a Y as it is newer with less to go wrong and more warranty
Now that we're past that, the X is a completely better car and if the range usually suits I'd go for it. Especially if theres a reliable charger site on route.
Seems a reasonable approach to me not a S***show (to have a Safety driver sitting in a passenger seat) for what is first trials, with emphasis on safety and a feedback loop…it is a "test" phase
https://x.com/farzyness/status/1936875823841296576?s=46&t=HMw5ZVtUzMq4snu7xibMnw&fbclid=IwY2xjawLFQV9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFmZGY0Y09SYjE1WWJVZDRxAR5FASkK6OZkvFfOiblDxmmlAQfC9X8zjQgOSVuCYg4lXruXqcAgVJYqPpf_xw_aem_Kjq4D7vdIpB5kxbI3p2y5A
LOL, depends on where you read your content.
Actually, most media have been fairly to highly negative about Tesla for a while now, and not in a well-researched journalism kind of way.
I've been doing a Google news scan for Tesla and Tesla fsd for a month or two, filtered to last 24 hrs. It's 95% rehashed negative spin without real basis, or loosely based on facts. Electrek is one of the funniest, considering it's supposed to be supportive of EV industry. Very single-mindedly out to dis Tesla.
They have started or they haven’t started?
I’m still not convinced, but then again, I wouldn’t use a Waymo either.
I'd probably be more likely to trust an autonomous car in the US, with their grid layouts and mostly traffic-light controlled junctions. But I can't imagine trusting a robotaxi without proper LIDAR and Radar systems like the Teslas seem to have.
Beyond that, the one thing I always think about when I'm using the Level 2 assistance on my car is that automating a car without any form of LIDAR or Radar through roundabouts seems like a near impossibility to me. I suspect it'll be a long, long time before anyone seriously tries to tackle fully autonomous driving in Europe - regardless of whether regulations allow it or not.
They have started and although small scale it is an impressive first start (see embedded link above ) for what is an initial test
You don't think people aren't trying to seriously tackle it right now?
Grids and lights definitely much simpler than the roads here.
Here's a roundabout example, wouldn't fancy driving that one myself.
https://x.com/niccruzpatane/status/1923365516489478596?t=SIQuPSfDwnbJ4Hcz64qtyg&s=19
You haven't seen videos of testing in Amsterdam, Paris and Rome? Arc de Triumph features in Paris one. Bikes everywhere in Amsterdam one. General chaos in Rome one.
Roundabouts are mostly quite orderly.
If you have enough cameras you can create a 3D image, as long as they can see clearly you can get the car to navigate around that created image. Lidar and Radar don't have that capability quite as much
Lidar, radar to a lesser extent, are by far the best sensors for mapping 3D space. Adding more cameras and trying to infer 3D space from 2D 'image' with no distance meta data is computationally intensive, and much less reliable. This has been empirically shown in published studies.as long as they can see clearly
as long as they can see clearly
Again, this is part of them problem. Camera-only systems require pristine conditions - no glare, no rain, no fog, no dirt or oil on the camera glass, but these single sensor systems are unable to accurately infer distance repeatedly and consistently. Autonomous driving needs redundancy, that means a multi-sensor approach. Even Waymo has not solved it yet despite their multi-sensor approach and beefier onboard compute. They still rely on remote operators when the system doesn't know what to do. Autopilot distance control is not reliable. Some days the max distance setting is too close to the car in front, other days it might be acceptable - there's no consistency. My other car with radar is absolutely reliable in that regard, repeatable results day after day. I was watching a livestream from Bjorn Nyland a few days ago when he was testing MY Juniper, even a tesla fan like him said autopilot was jerky and not as good compared to his old Model S that had radar - that's not progress. Then there's another problem; Musk drones on about Dojo etc but the reality is that these onboard image machine vision models require more compute for inference when trained on more parameters. It's all good training FSD/Autopilot on these massive supercomputer clusters but scaling it down for relatively small onboard computer like Hardware 3/4 is impossible. We see this when Autopilot/FSD gets better in some areas but worse in others.
totally forgot about this yesterday. Looks like it was incredibly lowkey, doing just a couple of drives with investors and influencers in a geofenced area, with a Tesla engineer in the passenger seat. as underwhelming as we thought it would be
Has to start somewhere right? I'm pretty surprised by the amount of us tesla users that maintain they commute daily with fsd.
Sure we can spout out all we want here, the market decides, just made an easy 9.5% on TSLA in two days and cashed in
The most optimistic estimate puts FSD take-up at 20% of US sales, and musk denied in 2023 that it was just 2% that year, so I guess if you spend so much money on it you’re willing it to work.
No one is buying a tesla AND optioning FSD that isn’t happy to beta test it to death.
Buy the rumour sell the news 👌.
nothing is ever bad news for TSLA :)
the low ish volumes this morning strongly suggest it’s retail driven.
True!
I've never lost on Tesla, in and out with quick gains, wait for the drop and back in ready to get out again, there's loads of stock like that, gained 50% after buying when Trump announced his levies after about a month of holding, small 4 figure sums
US sales in 2023 were 670,000. 2% of that is 13,400 sales of FSD software at $8k that's $107,200,000 turnover just on the software, in one year. Dress it up whatever way you want, that's not bad and if they make it to 20% add another '0' on the end of that figure
that’s just gambling. I’m not saying lots of things in the stock market are any different, but it’s a long off investing in the normal sense.
