Clampdown on TV 'Dodgy Boxes'

anything I'd say. he says it doesn't include apps downloaded from the amazon appstore.

what does he think happens if it's turned on?

I knew that it was done in the past, but I had a feeling that it is not the current practice. If it was tried out again, probably GDPR would get involved.

In the prosecutions of the Mister Bigs in the Dodgy Box criminality, I could see them trying to get their punishment reduced by co-operating with the Gardai. If Sky got details of some of the Low Level Criminals this way, it would make big news if they took a prosecution against a few of them. This is where I would envisage a lot of legal argument between Sky and those determined to keep the data of criminals a secret.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland

"An Post maintains a database of addresses and uses this to inspect suspected cases of non-payment. As of 2019 the database is 30 years old, does not contain Eircode data, and has no data mining capabilities.

Television dealers are required to supply details of people buying or renting televisions; this is no longer enforced as details supplied were unreliable. There is no obligation on cable and satellite providers to supply details of subscribers; in November 2012, a bill to change this was introduced. Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources Pat Rabbitte announced a planned government bill to the same effect in July 2014. In April 2015, the proposal was to allow An Post to access cable and satellite subscriber databases, in tandem with cost-cutting at RTÉ; in October 2015 it was reported that the plan had been shelved."

Not affecting Sky?

Are they not losing money hand over fist?

Because the majority of people subscribe to watch premier League football.

If sky didn't pay what the premier league expect, then the premier League would just go off and do their own thing.

In which case the Premier League would have to find a way to stop the pirates. Which according to the experts here can only be done by doing very cheap prices. Big wage cuts for the footballers in that case I think.

What will happen in the coming years is nothing, because a new 4 year deal is just starting.

And rather than making in roads Amazon are not actually part of that 4 year deal.

You see this is the problem with this thread, you have to deal with people who don't even know the facts.

More on dodgy boxes... I'd say guys get rid of your phones, PCs, mini PCs, fire sticks, tablets, smart TVs etc. asap, cuz they are coming for you!

Sky Ireland's business produces €598.39m of revenue - it's small but one of their best performing markets and their subscriber numbers here have remained fairly steady. In contrast they're falling in the UK, and they face a lot more competition there as people will more readily dump Sky in favour of Freeview+Streamers.

Sky doubled its losses last year, largely due to problems in Italy and Germany and a bit of a disaster with Sky Showtime which was joint venture with Paramount.

They're desperately trying to become an aggregator by integrating their competitors into their platforms, as are the cable companies, but they're no longer the big glitzy gatekeeper to big name content that they were a couple of decades ago at their peak.

Sky's basically's becoming a legacy platform and I think what you're seeing at the moment is desperation to maximise hold on the market. Cracking down hard on stuff like this will probably just backfire on them and do them a lot of PR damage.

They've also cut a lot of staff, which is showing up in their customer care being far less than stellar.

Sky Ireland's also just launched mobile here, which would tend to indicate they're digging in further, not pulling out.

It's the premier league that ultimately pay the price for a fall in subscriptions. Sky estimate what they will make from the rights and bid below that to make a profit. If that profit estimate drops, so will the bid.

I don't think sky or the premier league are doing badly right now

I'm not a boxing fan and I've never gone looking for these events but I'm guessing that these pay per view boxing events are available on ones standard run of the mill illegal streaming service ?

Or are they really something that are not "pirate-able" ?

I was simply pointing out that Amazon have had some games, I wasn't discussing any new deals.

And I was also pointing out that there may be more competition for Sky in the future, by those with LOTS more financial might than Sky. You and me both have no idea what the future will hold for bidding for epl rights.

Yip. PPV / Live Events section gets updated before any big event.

Amazon had a small package for the last two rights periods.

That package involved two or three sets of midweek games, one of which was the Boxing Day fixtures.

But this time they did not win any packages, nor did any other big tech.

The EPL took what I would regard as a cautious approach this time, they reduced the number of packages, increased the number of games, and increased the duration of the contract, so there was no small package available like Amazon had last time.

So there was no opportunity to "test the waters" as it were.

Which is all good for customers because you have one less subscription to consider, and you know that's not changing for four years instead of three.

If big tech enter the market the price for the subscription will not suddenly be cheap, it will probably be more expensive.

NFL rights this side of the world used to be brought to you by the NFL themselves, but they sold it to DAZN a few years ago and the price went through the roof.

It seems the NFL and other American sports are also being scourged by criminals stealing their product. Maybe China has found some way to defeat them?

AI: The NFL actively combats television and online video piracy through legal and technological means. They pursue copyright infringement claims against websites and services that illegally stream NFL games, and they also work with platforms like Facebook and YouTube to remove infringing content. Additionally, the NFL has agreements with various media partners to distribute games legally through television and digital platforms. 

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