Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 14/08/25*

I don’t know anything about the author, but that headline screams “Please don’t cancel me for this”

It's interesting that when people want to sneer at gript they call it a newsletter or a one man website but when it comes to critiquing the bias of the Irish Times or RTE, Gript is posted up as the comparison for the bias the other way.

I am all for fair evidence based criticism.

But when criticism is based on evidence that can't be produced and can't be explained.

Or when written news articles are produced as evidence but no actual specific example can be shown in the article text.

I dispute it.

But lets be real here. The real reason for disputing these news sources is so that when less credible news sources make a crazy claim and it cannot be supported by traditional news sources.

This can simply be waved away as these traditional news sources obvious bias.

So If this bias is so obvious for the Irish times why can no one on this thread provide an actual example and cite their concerns?

I mean Irish times is a written media but you can't provide an example written evidence of them doing something you claim they are doing in their written media.

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Sounds about right, for the first 3 months of the year over €415m was spent. Thats over €4.5m a day, there is some amount of money being made by these scam landlords.

https://x.com/Nick_Delehanty/status/1935273323685986328

As i keep saying its not till the well starts runing dry that questions will be asked. And when theres a drought the anger really starts up. Dont believe this massive corp tax take will go on indefinitely.

Because they could have stopped at Poland and we could have contributed to building modular homes there at a fraction of the price.

And what has been spent is ridiculous.

Whether your are talking about money for their pets or money for their car repairs or whatever else.

115,000 Ukrainians crossed into Poland within 72 hours of the invasion. By just over a month later, that was 2.3 million. In the time since Feb/March 2022, millions more have crossed that frontier.

It is understood that 6.3 million Ukrainians fled the country up to June 2023 — which is (to repeat what I constantly repeat) the most significant displacement of people in Europe since the Nazis swept across the continent. The Syrian Refugee Crisis by contrast, one of the major pan-EU crises of the 21st century, involved less than 2 million.

You act as if we could have just unilaterally decided to make Poland host all of them by unilaterally deciding to build modular homes in Poland and that Poland would happily have gone along with this because they were getting a bit of money handed to them for the mere exercise of hosting a volume of refugees equivalent to somewhere approaching 20% of its existing population (bearing in mind that I believe Ireland's intake represented something like 2%).

Criticisms of Irish policy towards the Ukraine crisis are perfectly valid — it's important that we try to learn from it, because something similar is going to happen again some day. But the criticisms could do with a little tempering of realism and acknowledgement of the sheer enormity of the crisis we were dealing after just starting to emerge from the enormity of the Covid crisis.

The Irish Times is way better than Gript, no question about that, none at all. Has it show a left wing bias in terms of immigration? Absolutely it has. Even the headline on the McWilliams article is an example 'to some extent' ffs. The IT could have covered immigration far more comprehensively, from the point of view adopted by McWilliams, but has only done so very belatedly. Much like our political leaders.

It was that failure to be honest in media coverage and political discussion, that opened the door for Gript, which is clearly ideologically motivated in its coverage of the issue. If the Irish Times, Independent and RTE had been a bit more honest and far less sanctimonious, there would have been no room for an ideologically motivated outlet like Gript.

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Does anyone have any solutions as to where we put IPAS people coming here every day? Just leave them on the streets? How do you deport them without papers? Bar having massive detention centres at the airports and setting up a new agreement with the UK over travel between our border with them I have no idea how we aren't going to keep having tens of thousands coming every year.

The Danish have introduced immigration policies aimed at reducing numbers. Maybe ireland could try some of their methods possibly.

That could take years though, what do we do with them in the meantime?

In terms of "being value for money" I understand the purchase of Citywest. Having it as opposed to paying out extortionate funds to private landlords. It hasn't been touched on but are we getting funding from outside bodies to fund this or it is exclusively on Irish government funds? The EU or the like.

If not, it seems gravely wrong for us as to taxpayers to be penalised yearly to the cost of billions solely because we are a put-together "doing-well" country that is desirable for the world to come to.

Call me heartless but I'd be happier throwing money at a motorway from Cork to Limerick, a Metro North than on countless IPAS centers for the next few decades.

Bar virtue, what are the positives to doing this?