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Unsolved Irish Mysteries.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    [quote]In the Deirdre Jacob case:

    "On January 21 gardaí questioned a middle-aged man who claimed he had given a lift to a young woman answering Deirdre's description on Tuesday July 28 from Clane to Carrickmacross in Monaghan. In a number of anonymous phone calls to gardaí and to local media, the man insisted the girl was Deirdre Jacob. On several occasions gardaí appealed to him to come forward so they could eliminate him from their inquiries. Finally gardaí traced the man and found his claim was untrue. It was a lavish hoax."

    "But for the four months gardaí tried to track the man, Bernadette and Michael Jacob went in search of Deirdre around the border area retracing their daughter's visit to Cavan and her movements. Every weekend they made the journey northwards. There was a kind of hope in their search. They were devastated to learn that it had all been for nothing.'

    I read somewhere else that this 'witness' had recently lost a daughter and his own grief had somehow led to him to making this story up.[/quote]

    Interesting. Also the case of the unfortunate Dean Lyons, who 'confessed' to murdering two women.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grangegorman_killings#:~:text=On%20the%20morning%20of%207,5%20Orchard%20View.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,152 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    When Mary Harney said on radio that Charles J Haughey should be given a jail sentence (before court proceedings had stated), that was that. No prosecution because of a possibly prejudiced jury.

    Very nice outcome for Charlie…

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭NoeldeBournaix


    Just watching these RTE news reports from the time, the general public would have had no reason to think that the Johnnie Foxes sighting was anything other than genuine.

    https://www.rte.ie/archives/2023/0330/1367177-annie-mccarrick-search/

    https://www.rte.ie/archives/2018/0403/951845-annie-mccarrick-missing/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Harney as a junior FF MP once received an unexpected Xmas present from CJH.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,152 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I'm almost certain that the IT did an interview with an ex boyfriend of Annie McCarrick a few years ago. I can't find it online now though.

    In any case, it looks like the gardai have nothing here. It's reported that all they got from the interview overseas is that the suspects alibi wasn't fully watertight, that's all - the individual wasn't given up. The search of the house therefore seems to be a shot in the dark perhaps based on the typical disposal of a body being at a location close and familiar to the perpetrator.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭Caquas


    I was referring to the alleged sightings by strangers in Enniskerry and Johnnie Foxes. The former coworker was a recognition witness which is much more reliable but it was probably a confusion of dates i.e. Annie did take that bus in the past but not on the day she disappeared.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Yes, that ex is not suspect, to be clear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    In 1993, most people would have watched RTE news and checked out a newspaper if not daily then now and again. So it's not difficult to perceive of a narrative whereby people came forward with honest but mistaken sightings along the lines of 'now that I think of it, I did see a girl who looked like that on 44/18/in Enniskerry/in Johnny Foxes' around the day she was reported missing.' One mistaken sighting may have inadvertently triggered others, not due to anything malicious but due to AGS putting too much on the Johnny Foxes alleged sighting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 593 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    It seems in many of the cases of the era, the gardai mostly aligned around a single scenario, even when it became statistically unlikely. I expect it was probably a combination of limited resources, and also lack of investigative experience, as murders were relatively uncommon. Even today, cases like Satchwell show the treacle-like manoeuvring investigations go through, perhaps because the most likely suspects get in early, act all innocent, and control the narrative to some extent.

    When someone spins a story in Ireland, many people tend to believe it. The dark side of the gift of the gab.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    i wouldn't rule out the searching of that property showing something of significance...if the killing of Annie mccarrick was planned...she could be anywhere...if it were a accidental killing ... people panic and more likely to go with a place they know.



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