Waterford GAA Thread - Mod note post #1

Good to see games going to venues besides the usual few places.

The coaching and game plan is the problem. Look at us under Cahill and look at us now. Shanahan hasn't a clue the Derek McGrath game plan didn't work 10 years ago and it ain't going to work now. As I've said on this after the Cork loss the county board should not give Queally another year. I am still furious over how we set up against Tipp and Cork. Peter Queally is not up to the standard. That game plan today from Cork came down to Donal O'Rourke he's an excellent coach. I'm sure he'd love to be in his own county working with the Waterford team. The appointments we've made the last few years are baffling and alarming. Crazy stuff

It's all down to coaching. The hurling is being coached out of our forwards. Lyons, Prendergast, Kevin Mahoney and Kiely are all excellent hurlers just not allowed express themselves. It's crazy how we set up. Shane Bennett was ruined by McGrath and Dessie was unbelievable under Cahill and Bevans and is a shadow of the

of 2020/21. To be fair he wasn't bad in 2022 either.

I'd lean more towards the coaching side of things or even over coaching. We seem to overthink things rather than being expressive and playing off the cuff.

That coupled with we probably are not as strong as we were.

I said it hear before the famous minor and U21 team were lethal going forward. Under Cahill we seemed to have that forward style of play once more and seemed to be going in the right direction with it.

Since Cahill our forward play seems to have regressed.

Never mind yesterday I felt we were miles off Limerick in Walsh Park.

Despite a spirited performance it felt like a much larger defeat.

Frustratingly I still felt both Tipp and Cork were there for the taken. A very poor performance V Tipp was ultimately the end of our season.

agree, the last decade has been a constant shift that has no doubt left a real good crop of players no room to settle and perform. Think of the likes of Gleeson, Bennetts, prunty, this is there fifth management team they’ve had to adjust to.

Queally has been given a shot and would love to see him do him well but he is tasked at getting the right team behind him and I will have massive worries going into 2026 with Dan and Kelly.

o rourke would be an exciting addition and one I feel he would jump at considering he went for the 20s role and is appointed on the new review panel.

Also agree that the when the time comes for seriously rebuilding will probably look for someone like joxer who has had a hand in developing the underage teams. Who knows what will have been achieved by that group he’s with by then. But I think there may be another kick in this current group.

rebuild with what though? There’s nothing coming through for another couple of year at least. Will wait to see over the coming months what happens in terms of any retirements etc. I agree with the poster that said there could (should) be another kick in this group yet,

The current limerick team is backboned by a u20 AI winning team from 2015. Byrnes, morrisey, hegarty, lynch etc.

Why is it that our group who had success in 2016 are passed it? I’ve never really bought into the idea that personnel was an issue in Waterford. It’s been the constant shifting of management. And it’s not as if these managers were building off each other can you imagine the contrast in approach from Cahill and Davy!

Funnily enough John Kiely was the manager of that 20s winning team. That’s over a decade of working with those lads to where they are now.

Is the Minor game being televised on Saturday evening does anyone know

Agree there was v little between the Limerick and Waterford minor groups of 2013 -and 2014 they beat us after replays in both Munster finals but remember these Limerick lads didn’t even win a minor AI. the difference with Limerick they had a co board that was clued in, they knew they had a special group of players coming and they had a plan and a vision as to how they were going to get the best out of them for the years ahead, got the best backroom personell they could get aswell and look at what direction they went. We stumbled along year on year with no long term plan, no vision, after Derek McGrath left they didn’t know what to do, ended up a car crash with Fanning. Then you had the farce with not having a stadium for our home games. Cahill came and worked hard to change the mindset from years of shackles to an open expansive style of hurling only to go undo all that and back to Davy and sweeper systems again.

I’m not suggesting this minor group will go on to be a Limerick but we have to row in behind this team going forward, give them everything they need to develop keep Joxer with them through the u20s with a view to taking them at senior level a couple years down the line, we don’t produce too many good underage teams these days we’ve have to build around them when we do

It’s not the only factor by any means, but it certainly helps to have a billionaire backer also.

Yep, link here

https://www.youtube.com/live/c4z8QkhYIGk?si=2agzgF5by_1-U1z3

Best of luck to the minors today

Best of luck to the minors. An AI final appearance would be huge for them. The less said about those preliminary quarter finals the better. What a ridiculous system.

Exactly this. Even the winners have no business there. Everyone keeps saying ah if you're good enough you'll get out of Munster and we haven't been good enough but my god how anyone can defend a system where it's so difficult to obtain a spot in the AI championship for one group yet places are thrown out willy nilly elsewhere is beyond me.