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Meanwhile on the Roads...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭selwyn froggitt


    He was killed on the slip road leading to the N25 just before Fota Rock housing estate,(so not on the dual carriageway itself).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,901 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,740 ✭✭✭standardg60


    I never really think about how vulnerable and reliant on other road users i am when out on the bike, doubt any of us do, those last few seconds for him i can't think about either.

    RIP.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭mattser




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭JMcL


    Is it just me or are the IT paywalling more and more articles these days? It seems that way over 50% (probably excluding current news items) are now subscriber only. I'm practically guaranteed that'll be the case for anything from them that appears in the Google news-feed.

    I just can't bring myself to subscribe as I think the standard of journalism there has gone down the toilet over the past 20-odd years.

    (NB: not having a dig at you Seth for posting - just a general comment)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    We'll agree to completely disagree so and leave it there.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    It is possible to get past some paywalled sites using the likes of archive.ph



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,411 ✭✭✭RobertFoster




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    Just so people are clear, this is also an access road to a large housing development, it's not quite like a grade separated motorway slip.

    And for more context, the big drama about cycling on the N25 a few years ago was because the local authority are/were pushing for NTA money to allow them to develop the lands on the N25 corridor. They need a big grade separated interchange at around milebush (the old amgen site) and it's very expensive, so they dressed it all up as a "safety" measure while giving cyclists a circuitous PFO route. The greenway under construction now should provide a pretty good direct route in future.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,740 ✭✭✭standardg60




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭khamilton


    Just had a look at the last part of the slip (after Fota Rock) and it looks terrifying. Crash barriers on both sides, no hard shoulder and then the merging lane is even more dangerous:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    It looks worse on streetview than in real life, that's an older image. Most pedestrians and slow moving cyclists stay behind the armaco to the left, and faster (N25) cyclists are crossing that merging lane which has very few traffic movements. You can almost always "own" the slip lane with nobody arriving behind.

    There also is a shoulder alright just that you don't really need to use it, hence the debris. Actual exposure here is a few metres/seconds as most are either cycling fast or already behind the barrier.

    The previous Western "on" slip and "off" slips are both far worse in practice. Without speculation about the cause of the crash here I wouldn't be inclined to immediately put primary focus on the slip road alignment - there's houses directly onto the N25 just metres further and the other nearby slip roads are generally more sketchy than this one, surprisingly enough.

    None of that will stop the LA shouting "Bilderoad" at the NTA mind you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭crayon80


    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-style/people/2025/06/05/shout-out-to-the-woman-who-trapped-me-in-my-car-in-tesco-car-park/

    Shout out to the woman who trapped me in my car in Tesco car park


    Thu Jun 05 2025 - 06:00

    It finally happened. I saw a driver getting caught breaking a red light. Just when I had almost given up on any kind of policing of the decline in motorist behaviour, the flashes of an unmarked Garda car brought back a smidgen of hope.

    mod note - no pasting of entire articles, this is copyright violation.

    Post edited by magicbastarder on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭elchupanebrey


    Driving in town today. Coming towards the entrance to a factory, which has a right turn lane to for cars on the opposite side of the road. There was a car stopped waiting to turn across, in relatively heavy traffic. Another car came up on their left cut in front of them and made the turn into the factory first. Not sure if they'd been behind in the queue and decided progress wasn't fast enough or what the story was, but couldn't beleive what i was seeing all the same. Much like the author of the above, nothing on the road should surprise you now. Apart from decent, attentive driving perhaps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,203 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    With all these medical emergencies, we're going to need to start medical screening for all drivers, similar to what is done for HGV drivers for a start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    I fully expect an outraged letter response in the coming days along the lines of "whatabout vigilante cyclists breaking red lights with no hi viz on".

    I also witnessed a cardiac surgeon in a desperate rush southbound on the N11 the other day on my commute home (and credit to him, despite his well earned salubrious salary, he's comfortable driving a white van). Not content with the speed of just-post-rush-hour traffic ahead at about 7.30pm, having undertaken a car ahead of him in the overtaking lane, and with not enough space to cut back in front of it, our hero's quick wits realised that the only option was to further undertake the car now ahead of him in the inside lane by shooting left into the hard shoulder at about 120kmph and pulling back across everyone into the overtaking lane. It's skills like this that ensure our population always has the cardiac care it needs at a moment's notice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,648 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Nobody is saying he drove deliberately into the house but it is a simple statement of fact that yes, he did indeed drive into the house. Why this causes consternation I don't know, and yes there may be mitigating circumstances like a medical episode, but that doesn't change the underlying fact.

    If you're sitting in the seat with the ignition on and the vehicle is moving, you're "driving" according to the law.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,105 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it's an issue about the vagueness of the word 'drove'; the media has to allow for the possibility that it was a medical issue; and if it was, and he was not in charge of the truck, he did not 'drive' into the house as the truck was not in his control.

    the word 'drove' can be used in both senses there, and the media are avoiding it because one sense can imply intent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Whether he was driving or not, his insurance company are going to have a tasty bill; the truck in photo was keeping first floor wall up and the roof.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,105 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    yep, that looks like a write off for both house and truck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭JMcL


    Had the same happen me last year, but with me on the bike. I'd pulled across into the right turn filter lane on a busy, but not overly so, road. I was coasting so the oncoming car could pass before making the turn, when a pressed cardiac surgeon undertook and dived across ahead of me in front of the oncoming car.

    It's an odd one as it was a Sunday, meaning Waterford hospital's cardiac unit would have actually been closed at the time, not being 24/7…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,392 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I see similar the whole time. Oftentime traffic is flowing fairly smoothly so it's likely cars in the wrong lane



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,675 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    The above lad continues his mental ways. I'm actually seeing him even more now. It's doing my head in.

    He stopped ahead of me this morning to let some cars passed (which to be honest, was a miracle to see) but then blazing through the pedestrian lights once they changed.

    This time however, I decided to take my phone out and snapped a photo. (can't see his face so I take it it's okay to post here)

    If anyone recognises him and could tell him to cop the **** on before he kills someone it would be greatly appreciated.

    After this photo was taken he immediately took off through the pedestrian lights ahead of him as they changed and nearly hit some pedestrians crossing from the right.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    I can see why that kind of cyclist would get under your skin. From accounts on here he's basically an angry/ entitled motorist on two wheels. Which evidences my philosophy that an asshat will be an asshat whether they're walking, cycling or driving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,711 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    another one. RIP.

    guy's probably been cycling the local roads for decades; what's changed is the amount, size and speed of the motor vehicles, but nothing a bit of hi-vis and a few appeals from the RSA can't fix…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    I'd love to see data on where our pedestrians and cyclists are dying; seems to be a lot of those type of roads, either busy regional or sh1tty national primary/secondary.

    That's a pretty busy section of road and lots of vehicles well above the 80km/h limit.

    A section of it is used on the old version of 3 Rivers 300, not sure if it still is, but its the type of road I hate to ride.

    I remember riding the route below with our informal club a few years ago; route is designed to avoid busy roads but a few lads were wrecked when we got to Kilgarvan and we decided to take R569 back to Kenmare. We met more cars in the last 10km than the previous 115km with a few cnuts thrown. Sometime I wonder do we over do the boithrins and then you ride something like that

    https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28371406

    RIP to the poor man



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,105 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    probably just coincidence, but i think most of the recent fatalities have been people aged 60+?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Drove over to Cork today, not surprised at anything anymore. one car half wheeling a truck on the N25 while the car behind tailgated and then kept paying peekaboo with oncoming traffic. On backroads, overtaken on a brief straight away on an 80kmph road, at I'd guess 120+ followed by a car that hadn't a hope of seeing up the road. Outside a school in a country village that somehow needs a traffic lights because the parents on phones need some hint not to run over kids (two still went through on red).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭beggars_bush




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