BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

That junction is a nightmare from personal experience, however I am not sure how infrastructure related it is. I think part of it is the pedestrian cycle is poorly timed, but the main problem is just the drivers.

Drivers regularly speed on every direction through that junction, and the left turn onto Dean street is something that still terrifies me. That left turn is dangerous because not only are drivers coming in hot when they make it, its a blind corner for pedestrians so we can't really see people until its too late. To make it even worse people regularly ignore the red left turn signal to make the turn and I have nearly been hit by many drivers doing that.

I'd have to agree here. The Clanbrassil St left turn filter block onto Dean St is routinely ignored and since the only solution is a full red all ways to decrease pedestrian risk it'll have to happen.

Unless it's changed recently, the opposite stop was still blocked off with construction fencing as of a few months ago. The infrastructure is in place though so hopefully it's only a temporary measure

I don't think that was confirmed anywhere so far, but it would make sense to extend it once the road is there, otherwise the bus would basically terminate in the middle of the road.

The masterplan involves a "transport interchange" past the junction of Castle Street & Aoibhin's Way (Barrington's Road in the picture below), although it is not clear if it will utilise the terminus at Carrickmines Luas stop or just have a walkway connecting to it (I hope it is the former).

There is also a link road going over the M50 planned to connect Cherrywood to the Carrickmines Retail Park area, that is moreso for general vehicle access but a bus route could be routed that way if needed - this could even allow for a route to head up towards Kiltiernan direction if the demand justified it.

This is all based on a document from 2016 mind you, so the plans may have changed since then. Cant seem to find a more recent version

https://www.dlrcoco.ie/sites/dlrcoco/files/atoms/files/cherrywood_area_wide_travel_plan_updated_aug_2016.pdf

Edit: Found a clearer map showing that it isn't currently proposed to have a physical connection to Carrickmines Luas stop itself, so it seems a pedestrian link will be the current solution. Ideally that should become a bus gate arrangement in order to utilise the existing bus terminus there

That's right

Ah nice, I'd been hoping to get down to check it out. Yeah that turning circle looks quite tight and I'd say the buses would pick up a fair amount of dirt using it!

Would be less tight if the council cut back some of the hedgerow there

There is a fairly significant issue on the 19 with drivers frequently taking wrong turns.

I don't even take the 19 that much (usually once or twice a week) and over the past 2/3 months I've been on buses where the driver took a wrong turn three times, all from the airport. On two occasions, the driver went straight through instead of turning right on to Glasnevin Avenue. The other time, the driver took the E2 route down Balbutcher Lane instead.

I've experienced more wrong turns on this route over the last few months than I have an all routes over the last few years. The only other time I can remember was a driver on the 41 missing the airport turn as he thought it was a 41c.

Out of curiosity, I looked at Bus Times and there are already two buses which went the wrong way today.

• The 11:00 to the Airport which missed Home Farm Road and turned on to Griffith Avenue instead
• The 13:00 to Merrion Square which didn't turn on to Glasnevin Avenue

It's strange that it's such a problem on this route. I wonder do the drivers have mixed rosters of both the 19 and E2?

The 19 and E2 are in the same Zone. So yes marked in drivers, drive both. I would guess that the drivers could be being told by control to skip Wadelai to get the bus back on time.

They were 100% mistakes. The buses weren't late anyway.

Of course, I'm not blaming them. But 3 wrong turns in 20-25 journeys is unusually high. I saw another 2 on Bus Times just for today. Drivers taking wrong turns overall is very rare in my experience, except on this route. If drivers are frequently getting the 19/E2 mixed up then DB really need to find some solution to it.

I brought a 33 through River Valley 🤣

WaWait till the A-spine kicks in ha