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Tesla Model 3 and Model Y Waiting Room and Delivery Queries (No referral links)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭sk8board


    this conversation happens every Dec and June for the past few years. Call their bluff and get a 252. They’re just trying to stuff deliveries into Q2. There’s absolutely zero reason for you to oblige them.

    They’ll tell you that they’ll give your car away and you’ll go to the back of the queue - but you won’t.
    my brother in law called their bluff last June and to be fair they just said ‘yeh ok fine’. It’s an Irish specific problem, that Tesla corporate don’t really care about.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,909 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Either call their bluff or just accept.
    On the 1st January, it will make no difference as your car will be a year old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Duplex140


    Yeah, I'm thinking the worse case scenario is i can cancel and then reorder. I'll lose €250 but still be better off. It looks like I'll have to do my trade-in valuation again either way too, so there is literally no incentive for me to take a 251 over a 252.

    If this was a normal dealership I'd be pushing for a discount out of them. I'm buying a brand new car, not a 6 month old car.This is just really bad planning on their part, why are they even bothering to take a shipment in June.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Duplex140


    How will it not make a difference? Genuinely just trying to understand how it works. A 251 will sell for less than a 252, am I wrong?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,909 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    this time next year, no.
    Using the same metric that you’ve used. The car is 6 months old on 1st July so it will 1 year old in 1st January.

    Would only make a difference if the car was refreshed mid year, in the same way for example, a BMW F10 132 would in theory be worth more than a 131 as the LCI came out on the 1st July.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Duplex140


    Two cars for sale. Same colour, same spec, same condition. One is a 251, the other is a 252. Which do you buy? There will be a lot of 252 Junipers in similar mileage and condition. That's assuming a private sale. If I am trading in (my preference) there isn't a universe where a dealership is going to give the same valuation as a 252. Oh they will look for the same price when they sell it, that is for sure!!

    Sorry, you guys are probably sick of hearing this every Jine and December!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭antfin


    The chances are in 4 or 5 years the condition and mileage will be far more relevent factor though than the mid-year plate number.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Duplex140


    Yes, which is why I gave a scenario where mileage is similar and condition is identical. There's going to be a tonne of cars the same, but with a 252 reg. Its a clear and obvious disadvantage to me and an opportunity for a buyer to get a discount or else simply walk away and take the newer car. For a trade in, its a given this will be a reason to knock a few thousand off.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,909 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Don’t be sorry. It’s your car and a large purchase, hence my posts are just my opinion. You have every right to ponder over it and give it as much thought as you feel fit.

    Push them for 252. Tell them out straight that you want a 252 and see how it goes. There’s a risk it goes to someone else and you’ll be on the next shipment which could be September but bearing in mind the car is now built in Germany, the delivery schedule may be sooner?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Duplex140


    The way things are, with sales down, its possible they'll still have cars to shift come July. But otherwise, I can wait until September. I can also cancel and order again. There is literally no incentive for me to take a 251 in late June.

    Thanks guys for helping me think through it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,341 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Or it's possible that any cars they have left unmatched at the end of June get put in Inventory with a 2k discount and they're gone within a few hours.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Duplex140


    Yeah, I mean I'd take it with a 2k discount. That eliminates my issue which is that I have absolutely no incentive to take the hit on this.

    If they take the hit, then problem solved. But if they offer me nothing, pull the plug and then sell it fo someone else with a 2k discount, then I'd probably walk away and go for a different car to be honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭sk8board


    the reg plate difference will matter in Ireland, that’s unquestionable, it’s just that the mid-year change matters a little less than a calendar-year change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Duplex140


    Mmm. Im being ignored now. This is turning really sour for me now. Starting to search for something else...

    Anyone else unhappy with a June delivery?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,384 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I was told I could expect a June delivery which I didn’t want, ended up buying a 251 demo model with 14k off list and only 1200km on the clock direct from them. If you don’t want a new 251 in June which I didn’t, I’d hold tight and keep a close eye on their website for something to pop up. A heavily discontinued 251 could be a bargain in July.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,039 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Of course there is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭sk8board


    welcome to Tesla :)

    They love to pay chicken with their customers in June and December.

    (assume I added in the Braveheart “HOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLDDDDDDD!” meme here.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 Mark WH


    Which model did you get with 14k off?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭declan123


    Yep they took the VIN off me when I insisted on July delivery - said they'd look to reassign in July but no guarantee on dates, etc. More or less back of the queue, considering there are no incentives, not even a loyalty discount I'm thinking about telling them to stick it you know where, considering the Tavascan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Without a shadow of a doubt, I’d call their bluff on this, especially this year of all years with everything going on around Tesla and them crying out for sales.

    Why can’t they just reassign delivery a few weeks into the future? They’re trying to strongarm their own customers in order to make sales targets.

    It’s genuinely ridiculous behaviour - ”just give us your hard earned €50,000 and stop bothering us ffs”.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,039 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    You're overthinking this @Duplex140 - first/second half year plates make absolutely no difference except to the neighbours.

    Your 252 plate in Jan 2026 is considered a year old, not 6 months old.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,909 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    One might pop into inventory on 1st July and you can jump on that. Otherwise the Tavascan is a really nice car too. You’ll get no loyalty discount from Cupra either though.

    At the end of the day, when these cars were first ordered, it stated June delivery. People need to remove the emotive part of the transaction. They are buying a car, it’s not a love story and the days of people getting waited on at delivery with red bows etc are long gone.

    Doesn’t make it any easier handing over €45k though.

    I’d go drive the Cupra. Have a spec you like etc ready so that if you do need to order you are ready to pull the trigger straight away and not waste another week going to view and drive etc

    what’s the waiting time on a Tavascan currently?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭sk8board


    I disagree, and it’s a personal choice. For sure a mid-year change isn’t the same as the January change, but it’s still worth something to someone buying your car in a few years time, subconsciously or not.

    It’s like arguing why buy a new car at all when a one year old one is €10k less.

    It’s a new car, and in Ireland the reg plate dictates just how new it is, for better or worse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,384 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    251 Model 3 Highland AWD, list of 62k, paid 48k with more warranty than a band new one, even came with 3mts tax.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,686 ✭✭✭Underground


    I suppose the reg plate does make a difference if you’re looking to trade it in within 2-3 years.

    I’m planning to hold on to my yoke for 10yrs + so 251 or 252 makes no odds to me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭JOL1


    This is usual behaviour as Tesla move heaven and earth to ensure all available inventory is sold prior to their financial quarter end (sales heavily scrutinised by the market) . For anyone who wants to push delivery out (a personal choice) that can be done but Tesla will not hold the car if they believe they have a good chance of being able to sell it to someone else prior to quarter end. Tesla accounting policy is such that they can only recognise a sale as revenue if car has been paid for AND delivered to customer. It is for everyone to make their own choice about delivery but it may help in understanding their busienss model. My instinct (only a view) is that if a car is rejected and goes into Inventory it will find a buyer who wants the car now. Best of luck to all on their new car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭declan123


    I drove it and its nice, would go for the endurance 6. Doesn't have same power delivery, range or likely efficiency of the Tesla but v well finished in fairness with a lot of kit such as HUD and DSS you wont get in the Tesla and looks better too. They have stock more or less ready to go for July registration and actually giving me a good trade in on a Cupra as well. From a hassle perspective, Tavascan makes a lot of sense. Still things like the missing heat pump (common omission on the MEB platform without winter pack) seems like a step backwards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,876 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    lads you need to stop taking it personally, the tesla model is what it is, you order online you take the car when its ready, you dont want to take it, fine roll the dice and hopefully you get one soon after your cut off date but really if i had tried the various cars in my price range and decided on one, i wouldnt be getting something else for the sake of a 251 v 252 plate myself, and if you think its limited to Tesla Audi tried the same thing with me as well when an a5 i ordered for march didnt come until early June they wanted me to take it as a 1 plate and it took a lot of pushing back to change that, they are all incentivised on half year numbers.

    Personally I am half hoping they heavily discount the launch edition demo cars they have post end June and ill cancel my new order and take one of those as its effectively the spec ive ordered anyway.

    They called me today to see if wanted to change my order to get a car sooner but i politely refused.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,353 ✭✭✭John arse


    Yeah I walked away from the Tavascan because of the winter pack extra cost(€1700 or so?)- never getting a car without heated seats ever again!🔥



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭sk8board


    that’s the same model with all car manufacturers, except the likes of VW or Toyota are realising the revenue when they sell to the showroom networks, and not direct to a customer.

    I can’t personally imagine why I wouldn’t wait a few weeks, versus a massive company pressuring me to give them my €50,000.

    My experience of this with bmw was that they changed my delivery to July 1 as soon as they saw the car was delayed to end May, and called to confirm that’s what I preferred.

    as for your instinct that the car would be picked up, I really doubt the demand is there to be honest - it wasn’t there last July, and I can’t remember 2023, but there weren’t too many dissatisfied customers



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