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Donegal GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    I'd be amazed if they sell out. These group stages are a cod. There is a lot of football for very little jeopardy. They're selling a 3 match ticket bundle but haven't even announced the 3 dates yet. The sooner they change this format to reduce the number of games and increase what is at stake in each game the better. The action won't start until the knockouts and you won't see sell outs until the quarter finals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Goodluck2me


    I think as draws go this wasn’t the worst outcome, not much by way of travel and plenty familiarity. I would have preferred Tyrone last but that’s ok. Decent opportunity to broaden the squad now, get some rest into Murphy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭ghostfacekilla


    Agreed that it’s a terrible format, and will be glad to see the back of them…however I feel that Jim will most likely strive to top the group to avoid the preliminary qf for a week’s rest as the teams coming out of the prelims almost always lose their qf. Our bench has strengthened, but our depth still isn’t great if we start to pick up injuries along the rest of the series. It’s funny, if you had a decent lead in the old money, you’d empty the bench to give the stars a rest, however it’s hard to fathom what constitutes a decent lead in today’s environment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,743 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    It`s a better group than the one we would have been in had we lost the Ulster Final, but it`s still tougher than the other two groups. Not that I would for a second even think about sacrificing Ulster for a handier group, but from how crazy this format is for the AI Championship we would have been in a better position by losing to Monaghan who are in a group with Louth, Clare and Down.

    That said, seeing as we are where we are. Tyrone first game gives us home advantage wheras last would have been a neutral venue, and I`m happier with our away game being Cavan than Mayo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,297 ✭✭✭overshoot


    post on the Donegal fb says they’ll be up for sale until next friday. Seated only at 50e. Terraces are 20 per game



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭ghostfacekilla


    Got sorted this afternoon. Good value on the surface, but it will I suppose depend on which stand/terrace they allocate the tickets too. Can’t see them being premium seats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭ghostfacekilla


    Bought the 3 match pass. Tickets only state entry by turnstiles 17-22/Terrace. Anyone with intimate knowledge of the venue know if that prohibits or prevents making their way to the stand?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,747 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Jason is a big loss for tomorrow. It really limits our options around the middle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭ghostfacekilla


    I have never been a fan of Hughie McFadden, but there’s definitely been a marked improvement in his game this year. Jason has had an awful run of luck with injuries. It’d be an awful shame if he went down the same route as Gillespie in that regard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,743 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    McGee is a big loss. On the plus side it`s good to see Ban Gallagher named on the bench. From the team published hopefully Patton will play. There was a lot of speculation that the injury he picked up in the Ulster final would rule him out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    Very disappointing result. Lots of men misfiring. If my memory serves me correctly Donegal have been consistently poor in the conditions we experienced today. Tyrone looked much more energetic at the end. Pressure is on now and we'll see how they respond.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,532 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    https://highlandradio.com/2025/05/24/no-excuses-from-jim-mcguinness-we-just-didnt-show-up/

    No excuses. Fair enough.

    The drop of from Patton to Mulreany is huge and very disruptive. Stats might say we did ok on our own kick out but it was far from the sort of possessions we can expect with Patton in goals. This is 'fine' - not many (any?) counties have a goalie as good as SP and it's not reasonable to expect that his backup will be anywhere near his level.

    Too many fellas seemed off the pace. Conditions didn't help handling or running but that's the same for both teams.

    Folks giving out about Gallen but on the other side Canavan didn't score from play. It wasn't the sort of game where inside forwards got many chances. I don't buy it that he's 'hiding' etc.

    Normally, DOB, Mogan, Ryan are scoring but Mogan didn't start, Ryan scored one and missed a few more and DOB well off it going both ways.

    Losing McGonagle didn't help but that's the way, every team has to deal with injuries.

    Thought that when we got the lead we'd see it out but like the Ulster Final, couldn't score for a long enough time after that.

    Very disappointing but not fatal. It feels like this has been coming, pity it had to happen at home but it's probably our hardest game in the group.

    Massive pressure on next 2 games. Even scoring difference needs to be a thing next day out - absolutely need to win, and can't take that for granted, but a good score might be important too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    Thought that Tyrone were more up for it and other than Murphy and langan we lacked physical presence when the chips were down. I wouldn't be to sore on our keeper. Tyrone ugoing pressed well and with the format of the competition means that injuries are going to occur. Can't remember many times where we kicked it. Cavan will be hoping of a rerun of the COVID Ulster final weather wise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    Whatever happens next weekend, it will now really be decided by the Mayo game. Win and we're through but lose that and we could very well be out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,747 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Nothing to disagree with there although it was the specific players that were injured that was the problem. McGonagle going off early, along with the absence of McGee and McMenamin, meant we lacked physical strength towards the end. Patton’s absence exacerbated the problem as we didn’t have his variety on kick outs. It meant everything was going to Murphy and Langan who were both excellent but it was too easy to read.
    We were also at the wrong end of three vital decisions when the game was up for grabs. The call against Roarty was a joke. The decision to award a free under the terrace when it was a Donegal lineball was wrong and the failure to give Thompson a free was a shocker. These decisions played a major role in the outcome of the game.
    We turned over more ball in that game than all of Ulster. Our shot conversion was also well down on previous games. I think we’ll learn a lot from yesterday and come back stronger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,532 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Was SMM injured? Felt he should have been on ahead of McHugh and OMcFF if he was fit.

    McGee has missed a lot of time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,747 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Apparently so. Carrying an ankle injury is the word.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭eastie17


    yere not losing to this current version of mayo. Mgmt have lost the dressing room and it’s a slow bicycle race to the end



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,743 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I wouldn`t be to critical of Mulreany, but it shows what Patton brings for us. With him not playing and with the height advantage Tryone had in midfield they were able to put a press on kickouts and it worked for them. Not that I felt they won a lot of clean possession from that in midfield, more from the ball being broken in that area. That for me was the most depressing element on our kick-outs, where we didn`t look as if we could win a break to save our lives.

    I don`t know whether it`s a loss of form or some needing to take a look in the mirror after this, but when Murphy scores 8 points and Langan 7 out of a total of 20 with the othe 5 coming from Paddy, Thompson and Ryan then something is seriously off with a number of players. I get the point that we kept Dara Canavan scoreless from play, but that makes it even more disappointing. If we had of been told before the game he was going to be scoreless from play, how many of us would not see us winning handy. But then the major disappointment for me anyway was 9 minutes to go championship game at home with the wind in our backs where we had clawed our way back to lead by two too then lose by three.

    Overall I didn`t think Tyrone were any great shakes yesterday either, but it looked to me as if O`Rourke saw where we have a problem from watching the game against Down. Down played ball about outside our 45 and pulled us around creating space. Tyrone did the same yesterday and created a wide open space in front of our goal at times which by luck as much as anything they did not fully exploit.

    With how this group is panning out, the next two games are a must win, and a must win with good margins if we are going to have any chance of making it straight to the quarter finals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭agfasfos


    it was a strange performance all round. Hard to tell where the problem lay. I think the best we can hope for is a preliminary quarter final. If we beat Cavan & Mayo that would be 4 points. If Tyrone lose to Mayo but beat Cavan they’d also have 4. Would they top the group on the head to head rule or does score difference apply in the first place, I know I’m making a lot of assumptions after one game but the permutations seem endless.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,288 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Head to head first, but teams on equal points could have played a draw. The rest of the clauses then apply, as they do when there are more than two teams level on points.

    "When Teams finish with equal points for Qualification for the Concluding Stages, or for Promotion or Relegation, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified:

    (i) Where two Teams only are involved - the outcome of the meeting of the two Teams in the previous game in the Competition;

    (ii) Scoring Difference (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For);

    (iii) Highest Total Score For;

    (iv) Highest Total Goals For;

    (v) A Play-Off"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭agfasfos


    Thank you for the info, definitely all to play for, we need to be well prepped for Cavan next weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,297 ✭✭✭overshoot


    if both ourselves and Tyrone finish on 4 points, mayo and Cavan can’t get 4 points unless cavan are the team to beat Tyrone. I think we are looking at playoffs…

    Now leaves us with two chances of getting a team from the groups of death between the playoff round or the quarter, plus Kerry a potential quarter opponent… (can we draw Armagh again?)

    If we manage to go the distance this year it will be some task given by next week we will have played everyone in ulster bar Antrim/fermanagh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Donegal cannot get Armagh again in the preliminaries or quarter-finals. However, they have a one third chance of meeting one of Armagh/Dublin/Galway in the preliminary QF, so it would might suit Donegal for Armagh to be in the preliminary QFs as they could not meet them and the other probable teams Louth etc are more manageable. On the other hand if Armagh headed their group, then two QF opponents (Armagh and Tyrone) would be ruled out for Donegal, so it would be a toss between Kerry or Monaghan. Donegal might prefer another Ulster game in that choice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,743 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    After last night, qualifying for the Q/fs is out of our own hands. The only way we would get there realistically because of the head to head rule is for us to beat Cavan and Mayo and Tyrone to lose to either both Cavan and Mayo or lose to one of them and draw with the other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭ghostfacekilla


    That was poor. As a spectator, getting absolutely drowned as well as the late throw-in didn’t help.

    Hard to know where to start. I thought Murphy, Langan, Roarty, Ryan, McCole and EBG did well, and Hughie seemed to put in a huge energy even if one of his mistakes led to a point on the other end. Bar McBrearty’s miss when he came, he did well with the two pointer, and was starved of possession afterwards.

    Daire O Baoill is far too inconsistent to start, and I think we need mimic Armagh to have two good keepers going forward for next year. We have a forwards problem. I could see Paddy being over the hill next year, with very little on the horizon to replace him, looking at the club scene. Donegal, even through our bleak years produced lethal forwards, but now seem to be producing great half backs, probably as a result of nobody wanting to play in the forward line during the defensive football era, as they were always marked by too many defenders, making it a hateful job.
    Really surprised NOD didn’t get a starting berth, and more surprised he wasn’t brought on as a sub? Was he injured.

    COD didn’t turn up. Oisin needs to be benched and used as an impact sub to earn his spot.

    McGonagle looked in serious discomfort walking across the field to the dugouts when the game was over. It didn’t look good.


    If I remember right, Jim said last year before the deciding and implementation of our current rules, which have resulted in more scores, that you need 24pts to win a match. The 20pts we managed fell short of what’s needed in new money, and with only 5 players getting on the scoresheet, our spread was criminally thin.

    Either way, I don’t think we’ve the squad depth to survive a one week break to the quarter finals and think that the game ultimately blew our best chance of an all ireland this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,743 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Niall O Donnell was named on the panel of 26. But he may have been carrying an injury. I thought Ciaran Thompson put in a good enough shift seeing as what he and Hughie had to contend with from what Tyrone had in midfield.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭agfasfos


    It's no coincidence that the only remaining unbeaten team in the Championship are Kerry. Donegal have played top tier teams from the word go & it's going to be difficult from here on in. We need a big performance against Cavan. Mayo have always been a bogey team for us & it's hard to gauge just where they are right now. It's virtually knock out football from now on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,743 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Difficult to know where Mayo are. They made the league final, but only because others pulled on the handbrakes. They looked terrible against Cavan, but that was off the back of a Connacht Final loss which they could as easily have won as lost, many of their fans have given up on them doing much this year, and Mc Stay was hospitalised this weekend.

    Mayo are a dangerous team when their backs are to the wall, and we won`t know where they are at until we see how they fare in Omagh. But that will really not matter unless we beat Cavan in Breffni.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭agfasfos


    A win against Cavan is essential, a preliminary quarter final is the best we can hope for & maybe the draw will be kind to us.



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