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Kneecap - New Footage *Read OP for Mod Warning*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,429 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Your complete lack of grasp of the potential offences and legislation here and the UK (both with a basis in common law) pay a lie to your claim of being local.

    An Irish person would also refer to someone on this island as a 'racist', not an 'Irish racist'. So what have you got to gain by posting from outside these islands?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    I have a better grasp of the law and right and wrong than you anyway, a chara. You still have not answered the question, are you Kneecap's manager? If you are, I heard you on Newstalk a few weeks ago, you would not even answer a question despite the same question being put to you multiple times.

    Anyway, stop diverting. answer the questions. This thread is about Kneecap, not you or me.

    Are you proud that MPs are now getting more death threats since Kneecap urged their many followers to murder MPs?

    Shadow home secretary Chris Philp said the band were "attacking democracy itself" with alleged threats to "incite the murder of MPs".

    In what other country do people get away "with attacking democracy itself"?

    N.B. Kneecap have Irish passports and wear the tricolour and identify as Irish. Because they entice people to kill MPs in England, and not in Ireland, and because they supported Hamas of course they are Irish Racists. Us Irish people can be guilty of Racism too you know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    Seems that the most vocal critic of Kneecap, Tory leader Kemi Badenoch may be a bit of a hypocrite.

    Frank Hester who donated 10 million pounds to the Tory Party said Labour MP Diane Abbott "should be shot" and that she made him "want to hate all black women"

    Badenoch's reaction was that his comments were "trivia" and that the Tories would not be returning the 10 million donation.

    Her actual words (on BBC breakfast news) are very interesting in the context of our Kneecap discussion.

    Now, this is trivia. I’m sorry, but I really do believe it is.

    “You are interested in the story from last week, which has been apologised for and everyone has moved on… This is something that is pure media bubble speculation. It is not what the country cares about.”

    "I think that it is far more important that we accept the apology and not moving on is taking too much attention away from what is actually meaningful to the people around the country.”

    “The point I’m making is that when people apologise, they should be forgiven."

    Here's the link:

    Kemi Badenoch dismisses row over Frank Hester’s Diane Abbott comments as ‘trivia’ | The Independent

    We can all see the agenda against Kneecap here. It's as clear as day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    Whataboutery. It was a donor to the Tory part who used the off the cuff "should be shot" expression, not someone in the Tory party itself.

    If you google the expression "should be shot" it says, and I quote it is a very informal and exaggerated way of expressing extreme annoyance or displeasure with someone's actions or something that is happening. It's not meant to be taken literally and doesn't imply actual violence. It's used to convey that something is so unreasonable or frustrating that it's almost comical in its absurdity. Here's a breakdown:

    • Meaning: The phrase is used to express extreme frustration or annoyance with someone's actions, not to advocate for actual violence. 

    I'm sure the donor to the Tory party had no intention of actually using violence or inciting violence, as middle aged respectable wealthy donors are not known for violence, and have no past record of violence or intimidation. He was not even dressed in a balaclava like a paramilitary, and was never photographed on top of what appeared to be a vandalised / damaged police Land Rover. Unlike Kneecap, he has never sung songs mocking dead MPs, like Kneecap have done.(Maggie in a box).

    Back to the point, are you proud that MPs are now getting more death threats since Kneecap urged their many followers to murder MPs? The political party of the MP for West Belfast, where Kneecap is from, is of the opinion there was "no alternative" to the campaign in the past where Republicans in Balaclavas did indeed target and murder English MPs, so for a Republican in a Balaclave to be calling for his followers to murder MPs in England ( not his local MP in West Belfast of course) and Tory MPs is a lot more sinister? Especially as MPs have been murdered as recently as 2 years ago?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    Wow!!

    I think you've outdone yourself here with this reply.

    In your scramble to excuse the evidence of the obvious fake outrage against Kneecap you've managed to be ageist, classist, and also invent some prior charges against the lads.

    Pure Hypocrisy.

    The manufactured outrage against this band is as clear as day for all to see.

    Basically "hate all black women" and "should be shot" was an "off the cuff" statement according to you which was different from what Kneecap did because the perpetrator is "not in the Tory party" and is "middle-aged" "respectable" and "wealthy".

    According to Badenoch I think that it is far more important that we accept the apology and not moving on is taking too much attention away from what is actually meaningful to the people around the country.”

    “The point I’m making is that when people apologise, they should be forgiven



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    You missed the point of what I wrote.

    If you google the expression "should be shot" it says, and I quote it is a very informal and exaggerated way of expressing extreme annoyance or displeasure with someone's actions or something that is happening. It's not meant to be taken literally and doesn't imply actual violence. It's used to convey that something is so unreasonable or frustrating that it's almost comical in its absurdity. Here's a breakdown:

    • Meaning: The phrase is used to express extreme frustration or annoyance with someone's actions, not to advocate for actual violence. 

    Neither was it used by someone dressed like a paramilitary or dissident , once photographed on top of what appeared to be a vandalised / damaged police Land Rover.

    Will you answer the questions:

    Are you proud that MPs are now getting more death threats since Kneecap urged their many followers to murder MPs? The political party of the MP for West Belfast, where Kneecap is from, is of the opinion there was "no alternative" to the campaign in the past where Republicans in Balaclavas did indeed target and murder English MPs, so for a Republican in a Balaclave to be calling for his followers to murder MPs in England ( not his local MP in West Belfast of course) and Tory MPs is a lot more sinister? Especially as MPs have been murdered as recently as 2 years ago?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    This is comical Ali level stuff happening here.

    "No, no, no. That the exact same situation occurred, has to be examined entirely differently as the people involved come from a different class entirely!"

    Honestly, it's embarrassing 😆



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    Will you stop diverting and answer the questions.

    Are you proud that MPs are now getting more death threats since Kneecap urged their many followers to murder MPs? The political party of the MP for West Belfast, where Kneecap is from, is of the opinion there was "no alternative" to the campaign in the past where Republicans in Balaclavas did indeed target and murder English MPs, so for a Republican in a Balaclave to be calling for his followers to murder MPs in England ( not his local MP in West Belfast of course) and Tory MPs is a lot more sinister? Especially as MPs have been murdered as recently as 2 years ago?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,429 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Better grasp of the law? Then how have you entirely mixed up two entirely separate areas of legislative law (Offences Against the Person & Public Order)? It appears that you're very confused about what Kneecap have actually done and any potential legal ramifications to that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    You have not answered the question put to you earlier. Are you Kneecaps manager? It was already suspected from your previous answers, but now seemingly confirmed.

    Will you answer the questions:

    Are you proud that MPs are now getting more death threats since Kneecap urged their many followers to murder MPs? The political party of the MP for West Belfast, where Kneecap is from, is of the opinion there was "no alternative" to the campaign in the past where Republicans in Balaclavas did indeed target and murder English MPs, so for a Republican in a Balaclave to be calling for his followers to murder MPs in England ( not his local MP in West Belfast of course) and Tory MPs is a lot more sinister? Especially as MPs have been murdered as recently as 2 years ago?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    Kneecap are pretty much dead after having shot themselves in the foot. BBC want nothing more to do with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,429 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    That's kinda hilarious. 😁 The BBC ain't relevant to the youth. Their music streams have doubled, their movie is reaching a new audience, they're about to headline the Wide Awake Festival (25,000) on Friday followed by Finsbury Park (45,000), Boucher Fields (43,000), Glastonbury (210,000) and numerous festivals across Europe. They're getting ever bigger and their focus will remain on genocidal Israel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,429 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    The Kneecap team have more to be doing than engaging with Hasbara on Boards.ie. or elsewhere.

    No point deflecting from your faux pas on the British legal system. It's above for all to see.



  • Subscribers Posts: 43,087 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    yeah, cos banning something has never had any effect on its popularity 😂🤣

    Kneecap are after going global because of all this.

    monthly spotify listeners gone from 100k to 1100k

    their album Fine Art has entered the italian, german and brazilian charts for the first time.

    silence = complicity



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,105 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Credit where its due they are monetizing this brilliantly after all. They'll need to keep the "genocide" going now or else they'll crash down.

    Impressive thing to monetize all the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    That would be the same BBC that broadcast Jeremy Clarkson on the One show saying that "All public sector workers should be shot" ?

    Their official comment on this was "on this occasion we feel the item wasn't perfectly judged"

    Can't believe some people are still falling for this hypocritical nonsense.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,652 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Probably already been mentioned in the thread, but blindboy's podcast from last week is an interesting listen; especially as he claims that kneecap have several times stated the the rubberbandits were a key influence on them.

    He places it in the context of a performance where the performer adopts a persona, and specifically cites the rubberbandits performing their song 'up the RA' with a series of ludicrous performers dressed as IRA members (e.g. gay strippers).

    He also talks about the wider context of a growing suppression of protest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    Do you know how little bands get from Spotify?

    As for how much Spotify pays per stream, they pay roughly $0.04 per 10 streams.

    So, 1000 streams would be around $4, and 100,000 streams would be $400.

    If if they get a million streams that is only 4000 dollars - not enough to pay for overheads and tax and travel etc, never mind their legal bills when they will be prosecuted - and prosecuted they will be.



  • Subscribers Posts: 43,087 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Well done on COMPLETELY missing the point

    😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    As their manager, will you answer one question, which you refused to answer on Newstalk. Did they say " UP HAMAS " to their followers or not? It's on film is it not, yet you will not have the liathroidi to admit it?

    Also, are you and your band glad that MPs are getting attacked more often since your band encouraged their followers to murder MPs in England?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Waaah...

    Must be killing some posters that Kneecap have gained popularity since this whole thing "blew up" (pardon the pun)

    Haven't they other threads to be spoil with their pro-Israel stance?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    It is you who missed the point. Even if they get a million hits from Spotify,that is not much use to them if Spotify only pay 4000 dollars per million hits. Maybe it will go far in a prison canteen or tuck shop though?

    As Regards their popularity, Hitler attracted big crowds too, and he also wanted foreigners murdered. Does not mean he was right.

    Kneecap have been dropped from a festival in the UK recently and they will not get visas to get back in to America.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Oh, yes. Kneecap and Hitler are equivalent because…

    …checks notes…

    Hitler had good jams?

    Kneecap called for the annihilation of any other races bar the Aryan race, like Roma, Jewish etc?

    Hitler performed in his native, persecuted language?

    Kneecap believe in eugenics? Anti gay? Anti-disability?

    Nah…

    I think the one thing they have in common is they make Israel defenders clutch at straws.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    If silence = complicity, then what's this?

    It looks like the gloating, delighted celebration of the deaths of 1200 Jewish people by a bunch of Hamas supposters to me.

    If it's not the glorification of a terrorist atrocity by Kneecap, then, conversly it's even worse. They then becone a cynical, opportunistic bunch of grifters using war and death to grow their brand, increase their twitter following, and monitize peoples pain and suffering.

    There's no defence for Kneecap from truth that this photo reveals, which is why it's ignored by everyone on the thread.

    It's one thousand words very clearly spoken to anyone who's prepared to be honest about them.

    kneecap (1).JPG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    'I think the one thing they have in common is they make Israel defenders clutch at straws.'

    Yes, cause objecting to the deaths of 6 million people is clutching at straws. I mean, it's a real stretch to voice any kind of objection. Just moaning really.

    Unfortunately, what they appear to have in common, as the above photo clearly shows, is that both are/were comfortable with killing Jews.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭sheepysheep




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    ok. Even though they have said they aren't, that they want peace in the middle East, that the answer is a two state solution.

    Make up whatever you want, it's not going to make one blind bit of difference. Whatever helps you sleep at night, supporting the Israeli regime that is currently starving hundreds and thousands of babies and children in Gaza.

    Go you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    They can make all the insincere, dishonest denials they want when under threat of prosecution.

    The photo reveals their true nature!

    You remind me of a Gary Glitter fanboy who refuses to accept that their big hero has been convicted for paedophilia offences, and that he should still be treated as an important artist with a worthwhile perspective on world events that should be listened to.

    Kneecap, like Gary, have been caught with their pants down. Every normal person can see what's hanging out. You'd probably see a rose or lily.

    The rest of us just see a bunch of dicks.

    Mod Edit: Warned for attacking the poster and being a dick

    Post edited by Necro on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,105 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    At least one poster here had the honesty to emulate Kneecap and nail themselves to TeamHAMAS.

    Others seem to stay supporting everything Hamas stands for yet try to pretend NOT to agree/cheer Hamas. Its bizarre.



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