Kneecap - New Footage *Read OP for Mod Warning*

Rocket_GD

Apologies for turning this into a genocide discussion.

Kneecap will continue with their Pro-Palestine, anti-genocide campaign and they’ll continue to have the support of many other artists as they tour across the world.

Choochtown

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123456788#Comment_123456788

Absolutely. They seem strong enough to cope with the vitriol that is being fired at them by the genocide excusers.

Delighted to see so many brilliant artists coming forward to declare support for them.

dasdog

"Fúck The Middle East" - Billy Milano - racist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsak8NAxetE

y0ssar1an22

it seems like the band should be banned.

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123456245#Comment_123456245

More justification for the murder of thousands of innocents.

Utterly despicable.

Thankfully most people here can see how bands like Kneecap are correct. As they tour and perform and carry their pro-Palestine message, may they turn many more minds.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123456840#Comment_123456840

March of the SOD is one of the greatest tunes ever 😀

itsacoolday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123456926#Comment_123456926

The thing is, many Palestinians are against Hamas now, the anti-democratic terrorist group which has ruled them without elections for the past approx 2 decades. Individuals who protest against Hamas though are soon found tortured to death and their bodies dumped outside their relatives homes. Hamas is not unlike the pIRA who disappeared people like Jean McC from West Belfast, who was abducted ( like Hamas kidnap people) tortured body was uncovered by coastal erosion elsewhere decades later. Kneecapping was also used to control their own population : hundreds of boys and men were kneecapped, some dying as a result, some others being left with a permanent limp and pain. And a band now named after this barbaric practice used on Irish people by Irish people dressed in balaclavas like Kneecap?

After Kneecap supported the genocide of the Oct 7th attacks on the music festival and surrounding villages, and the abduction of 250 innocents, some of whom have not yet been rescued by the IDF ( some have been, some have been killed by Hamas ), and after it came to light Kneecap incited the followers to murder English politicians, it is heartening to see how quiet Kneecap have become while their await legal prosecution proceedings.

Any so called band which dresses like dissidents, is photographed on top of what looks like to be a damaged / PSNI land rover acting like dissidents, and which encourages mass slaughter of 1200, and abduction of 250 ( leading to current conflict, as Hamas knew it would) and which incites murder of peaceful innocent poloticians in a neighbouring country has to be condemned as Racists, unless you are a Racist or dissident sympathiser yourself.

Unfortunately many of Kneecaps followers do not know about dissidents or what Hamas have done. And yes, Kneecap were filmed shouting UP HAMAS at a gig, which believe it or not is against the law to support such an evil organization. I citrment to hatred laws exist for a reason. Some people are in prison for that - why the delay in building the case against Kneecap?

itsacoolday

This evening one of those kidnapped by Hamas will be singing in the Eurovision. I'm sure she will get a strong vote, not unlike last year when the Israeli contestant received the second highest vote by the public in the contest.

Kneecap would not get much of a reception at the Eurovision as most people are against Racism and those who entice violence against poloticians in neighbouring European countries.

Of course you might get the 1% of the population who might support Kneecap, just as 1% might support or have sympathy for Dissidents.

Fr Tod Umptious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123457019#Comment_123457019

Ok, just to be clear, she wasn't taken hostage.

According to Wikipedia which reference her statement to the UN Human Rights Council she was at the festival that was attacked, was one of 11of a group of 50 that survived an attack on where they were hiding.

That's a terrible experience, I can't imagine what it was like.

And that is the kind of back story that will attract a lot of votes, for very good reason.

I'm listening to a very good podcast at the moment called Empire.

I'm listening to the series on Ireland and Northern Ireland.

And during it the hosts keep saying that things that happen in NI are like what they talked about in their episode on the Isreal/Palestinian conflict.

Im going to listen to that episode, and I'm guessing at the end of it the support for the Palestinian cause from NI nationalist will make a lot more sense to me.

itsacoolday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123457092#Comment_123457092

Apologies, she was not taken hostage : she was at the festival that was attacked, 1200 killed and 250 kidnapped : she avoided being killed or kidnapped by hiding from the attackers. Many were not so lucky.

Yes, re N.Ireland, I know nationalists up north and they draw parallels between the provos / dissidents and Hamas. Both abducted people, murdered them etc. The provos were proxies used ( and armed by) by Gadaffi , who wanted to get back at the British because of the bombing of Libya by US planes who took off from UK. Hamas are used by ( and armed) by Iran, who want to get at Israel / the Jews, an ally of USA.

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123456926#Comment_123456926

they’re not pro Palestinian. They’re pro terrorism and anti Jewish/Israel. That’s their real message. And it gets confused by people who think “aren’t they so caring in highlighting the plight of Palestinians.”

Choochtown

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123456982#Comment_123456982

"it is heartening to see how quiet Kneecap have become while their await legal prosecution proceedings"

Next weekend they will play to 25,000 people as the headline act of the Wide Awake festival in London.

Then it's on to Denmark, Spain, Czech republic, Netherlands … etc. They are going to be very busy lads.

Now how's that legal prosecution progressing?

dasdog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123456963#Comment_123456963

It's a great album. Unfortunately Billy Milano is one of those Americans who is both simultaneously anti-semiotic and pro Israel. One of those that can't distinguish between art and real world human existence.

Choochtown

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123457140#Comment_123457140

"Apologies, she was not taken hostage"

I reject your half-hearted apology! 😂

itsacoolday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123457270#Comment_123457270

They hope to get 25.000 Racists going to the concert in London, if it sells out?

There was a high court decision ( Mr Justice Mould ) yesterday that the festival will not be allowed go ahead next year. Probably next weekends festival ( hate-fest? ) will go ahead though, albeit with a very strong police presence.

itsacoolday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123457344#Comment_123457344

At least I did not have to apologise for urging followers to murder English MPs, like others in provo type balaclavas have done.

Hamas attempted to kidnap / murder the Israeli singer, as she was in a group of over 1000 who were nurdered / kidnapped. She survived the attack, or she would still not be with us. Do you condemn the death threats she has received since?

Or do you think she should be murdered, just as Kneecap urged their followers to murder other peaceful people it does not like?

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123456788#Comment_123456788

They also clearly have the support of the youth on these islands, and further afield. It's the Israeli/US/UK politicians, their media and the arms dealers that fear them.

Choochtown

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123457601#Comment_123457601

The court decision is to do with the use of the park. Nothing at all to do with Kneecap.

Don't know why there will be a "strong police presence". There's never much trouble at festivals. People are just out to enjoy themselves. Maybe it's because of the death threats to the lads after some troublemakers tried to whip up the hysteria after the Coachella show?

They won't back down from spreading their anti-genocide message though and it's great to see the lads getting loads of gigs in the UK. Obviously the British public don't think they're "racist" as they are spending their hard-earned cash to come out and see the band and enjoy the show. Thousands upon thousands of Brits will be enjoying the Kneecap experience this summer. 😀

Choochtown

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123457614#Comment_123457614

I absolutely and completely condemn the death threats that that young singer has received.

Do you condemn the death threats that Kneecap have received?

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123457601#Comment_123457601

Source on the 'very strong police presence'? And also for Finsbury Park, Boucher Fields, Glastonbury, etc? 😁

Judgement on the court action was due to promoters using the park for events over 37 days rather than the agreed 28. A resolution will be found, as always with these events.

Galwayguy35

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123457019#Comment_123457019

And to think those losers in RTE wanted her banned from the show.

Karma is a bitch all right, the Irish act is gone and Israel is in the final.

It hasn't gone unnoticed in other countries what RTE were up to and the chances are their virtue signalling cost Ireland votes.

itsacoolday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123457781#Comment_123457781

Of course there are thousands of anti English and anti Jewish Racists in England, but there are millions and millions of people who are not Racists and want nothing to do with the anti English, anti Jewish but pro-terrorist ( Hamas are terrorists) Kneecap.

Choochtown

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123457862#Comment_123457862

I absolutely and completely condemn the death threats that that young Israeli singer has received.

Do you condemn the death threats that Kneecap have received?

sheepysheep

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123451584#Comment_123451584

That photo is more than 'very poor taste' though isn't it.

It's fairly irrefutable evidence that Kneecap do in fact support Hamas and their murderous agenda, no matter how uncomfortable that is for both you and their apologists.

I mean, how do you brush away this one?

They weren't surfing a wave of emotion at a gig, no one shouted anything from the audience for a reaction, there wasn't any spontaneous performative context to it.

Instead, in the cold light of day, within 24 hours of the most heinous terrorist attack since 9/11, they decided to take a photo and post it online showing their clear support for the 'resistance' who had just perpetrated those attacks, and what had just transpired at a music festival.

There is no ambuigity about it. They 100% support Hamas.

itsacoolday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123457915#Comment_123457915

Of course. I condemn all death threats. Kneecap are best known for making death threats rather than receiving death threats, if indeed they received any. We only have Kneecap's word for that, and we know how they are not always consistent with the truth. First they promoted Hamas, expressed their support for Hamas : they when the sh*t hit the fan they said they did not support Hamas. They do not have the backbone to stand by what they originally said when they realised they were in trouble with the law.

The Israeli singer escaped rape / torture / death / kidnapping by hiding at an event when Hamas terrorist murdered - and kidnapped over a thousand people ; she is not named after a torture / method of maiming used by paramilitaries in living memory, and she does not dress in a provo style balaclava.

Kneecap is best known for being bigoted Irish men making death threats against innocent politicians in England, and for being photographed acting like Republican dissidents on what appears in the photo to be a vandalised / damaged PSN I land rover.

Kneecap are a bad image for Ireland.

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123458543#Comment_123458543

You don't understand what a death threat is if you believe that Kneecap made any.

itsacoolday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123458566#Comment_123458566

Rubbish. A death threat can be defined as a threat, often made anonymously, by one person or a group of people to kill another person or group of people.

Kneecap from West Belfast, dressed up in a balaclava and tricolour synonymous with Republican violence, urged their followers in England to murder their local MP there, and they further mentioned Tory MPs, and the only good one is a dead one. I am sure MPs in England do feel threatened on a continual basis from such extremists, as a number of them have indeed been murdered by men in balaclavas. I gave a link earlier where a female MP explained how she and her colleagues feel about such threats and intimidation. The last MP in England was murdered only 2 years ago. Other MPs have suffered other violence and intimidatory behaviour since.

Do MPs feel threatened? Of course they do. Quote:

"

MPs' safety 'keeps me awake at night,' says Speaker"

"Intimidation and threats to MPs are at unprecedented levels, according to the House of Commons Speaker.

Alongside physical threats, parliamentarians are facing constant cyber-attacks from "foreign actors" trying to "disrupt" the work of the Commons, Sir Lindsay Hoyle said."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cl5yj83jq2no

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-68387790

https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/safe-house-dangers-mps-staff-face-and-protect

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/22/death-threats-mps-politicians-protesters

How many of the people who have made threats to MPs, intimidated them, shouted abuse at them, threw bricks through their windows etc were inspired by Kneecaps call for them to murder MPs? Shameful shameful behaviour and more of a real threat to democracy than any other band ever committed.

Seathrun66

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123458765#Comment_123458765

A death threat in the various jurisdictions of the UK comes under the Offences against the Person Act 1861, section 16.

Incitement to violence in the UK comes under the Public Order Act 1986, and entirely different offence that is much more difficult to prove.

Your posts and lack of local legal knowledge display that you're clearly not from that nation, nor this. Begs the question what you're seeking to gain by lambasting a band that seeks to stop violence and end this Israeli genocide.

itsacoolday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123459462#Comment_123459462

lol. Are you their manager? Seriously. Of course I am Irish, and if you think Kneecap are trying to stop violence, why did they increase the amount of threats MPs are receiving? Or do you think that is just a coincidence? What disgusting behavior racist behavior from these three Irishmen, they are doing the image of Ireland a disservice and let down the rest of us good decent Irish people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXSYQhT3ghg

Are you proud that MPs are now getting more death threats since they urged their many followers to murder MPs?

Shadow home secretary Chris Philp said the band were "attacking democracy itself" with alleged threats to "incite the murder of MPs"

In what other country do people get away "with attacking democracy itself"? Its only a matter of time before the prosecution.

A Dub in Glasgo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123457175#Comment_123457175

lol