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Let me push that stool in for you: the off-topic thread

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Any Belfast city centre pub recommendations… Perhaps for craft beer, but not necessarily (interesting interiors / architecture also considered)?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Sunflower is my go to pub, good prices, good pizza, a great selection of taps and a generally nice atmosphere. Scraggy is £5.20 a pint and for comparison elsewhere you are looking at £6.40+ for a pint of macro.

    Out of Office taproom is worth popping into if you are visiting at the weekend. If not, their downstairs bar Ulster Sports Club is cool, but gets a younger crowd.

    The Crown is well renowned architecturally and has a few craft beers on tap/cask. Can be very busy with tourists and tour groups.

    The Spaniard has a pretty cool interior downstairs whilst upstairs has a slightly kitsch, granny's living room feeling with dozens of religious frames all round the room. Haven't been in in a while but I think it's just bottles of craft.

    White's Tavern claims to the oldest pub in town (1630) and has a cozy, traditional interior. No decent beer though.

    The Duke of York is probably the most quintessential "Irish pub" and is covered in old style advertising for beer and other goods. No craft beer on tap but they have bottles of their house beer made by Modest Beer at Lineman Brewery.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Great reply, thanks! There are a few pubs I hadn't heard of there, I only know the older, landmark ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Boundary Taproom is good, and is close to Bullhouse (though I have not been to the latter). Accessible by public transport form the city centre itself.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Having a Three Crowns peated and a pint of Our Brewery hazy pale ale in The Sunflower. Great pub, never would have found it without the recommendation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Hope this is the right thread to ask this - Wine Storage; is a shed an ok place to store it? Ordinary domestic metal shed/not insulated.

    We keep wine in the house at the moment but there's always a good selection of it and I'd like to get it out of my way. I've no interest/knowledge of wine but I wouldn't like to see it all ruined either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,671 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    In summer there'd be a risk of it getting too hot in the sun, during our occasional heatwaves eg

    Wine storage temperatures should never go over 24˚c as otherwise, wines begin to oxidise, which negatively affects the wine.

    https://wineware.co.uk/pages/wineware-wine-storage-temperature-guide

    For most of the year it'd be alright, important to store them horizontally if they have corks.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,311 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Under the stairs could be a good place, dark and no direct heating but no exposure to cold either.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,776 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Bertha's Revenge are shutting up shop.

    Things don't look good in the micro distilling world at all. Killarney gone, Blackwater gone through a rescue package. Powerscourt restructuring.

    Anyone else gone or in trouble?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,311 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Too many overpriced "me too" products. Then with whiskey you have to wait at least 3 years for a return

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭Boardnashea


    Any recommendation for a simple cocktail for tomorrow evening? Was thinking of a Wisconsin Old Fashioned via Anders but open to ideas.

    But where do I go for nice cocktail cherries round these parts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,776 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Long Island whisky sour.

    Looks great, tastes great and is a little bit unusual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,461 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    Negroni?

    Most decent off licences will have Maraschino cherries

    If you like Brandy, I love a Vieux Carre, split base Brandy and Rye Whiskey, Sweet Vermouth, Benedictine and a dash or two each of Ango and Peychauds



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,671 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Interview in Sunday Indo Business with Pat Rigney of Drumshanbo and he said the "vast majority of distilling in Ireland has paused at the moment".

    But he said The Shed hasnt stopped. He chairs industry group Drinks Ireland.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,776 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    He's a smart player with deep pockets.

    They kept their brand pure - no outsourcing whiskey and they didn't go crazy with gin variants. A very classy operation with clear branding and quality products imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,177 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    He was a Bordsie as far as I know. I don't know if he's still around. I can't remember his username.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,380 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    I don't know how, maybe it's brand related, as you say, but their gin certainly seems to have punched through and become recognised as a premium independent Irish gin in a way that others haven't.

    Their whiskey has never impressed me the same way… So far, anyway!

    I can only assume that independent distillers have a really tough decision when it comes to pausing distilling. They might save money in the short term by pausing, but if they aren't laying down their own distillate consistently, to age, then I'd have thought they are consigning themselves to a slow death. In an ideal world, they can make a profit on their own distillate asap - 5 years seems an industry average - but worst case… Would they not be better building up a stock and holding it for when conditions change… If they pause and things don't improve, what then- They'd be gone anyway?

    I can understand how the really big boys might consider product costs, reserves, profit at the point of sale and also be forecasting things like consumer tastes… But I wouldn't have thought independent distillers just have to hope for the best.



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