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Doping megathread - I can't even think of a witty tagline

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  • #272
    flatty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭flatty


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122527463#Comment_122527463

    I have a bridge for sale.



  • #273
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,662 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122527577#Comment_122527577

    I have to say I'm more open minded after hearing and reading Lizzy Banks story. Some labs can test to such small amounts that it has to open up potential for contamination not just lingering amounts from doping. I was 100% calling bullshít on the likes of Toon Aerts et al at the time.



  • #274
    sxt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,769 ✭✭✭sxt


    What pojacar did yesterday in the world cycling road race ( going completely solo from 100k out) and all the out of this world super human dominant wins this season has to be filed under the Suspension of disbelief. Suspension of disbelief is the avoidance—often described as willing—of critical thinking and logic in understanding something that is unreal or impossible in reality



  • #275
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,662 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Out of the current crop, he'd be the one I'd be most suss about, but in terms of the outlandish, I'm not sure it's up there even for him this year tbh! He got a gap and held it, in the face of no coherent chase/ multiple tactical f*ck ups. If there was race radios yesterday, it never happens.



  • #276
    Mefistofelino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122668763#Comment_122668763

    He wasn't completely solo for 100km. After his attack, he rode solo for ~ 6km before being collected by Tratnik. He then rode with the break, followed by riding with an increasingly bollixed Sivakov until ~ 72? km before riding the rest of it solo.

    It helped that he was chased by an extremely dysfunctional group - any time they got their **** together they started closing.



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  • #277
    Paddigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    As I said in post no. 275 above regarding the apparent double standards… "I wouldn't necessarily mind but it's almost impossible to enjoy a season of pro cycling without being dragged into the usual "wow, that was a 'superhuman' performance" debate", and here we are.



  • #278
    Paddigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    An alternative take on the sceptics viewpoint (ignore the headline)…

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/oct/01/tadej-pogacar-has-delivered-an-alternative-reality-for-the-true-believers



  • #279
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,662 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Could've warned us it was Jonathan Liew!



  • #280
    Paddigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122671108#Comment_122671108

    😂… is that a bad thing? What have I done?!? Am I going to be excommunicated from the cycling forum 😱



  • #281
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,662 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I say this as a subscriber to The Guardian, but he's just too Guardian for me! Never seen him address doping in football.



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  • #282
    Paddigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122672461#Comment_122672461

    Ah… got ya! "too Guardian" 😄

    His broader point is a fair one though. As is what he doesn't say, which is - as you DO say - the lack of forensic analysis of performance in other sports such as football.



  • #283
    sxt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,769 ✭✭✭sxt


    Pogacars performances this year are even more outlandish. Riding at 100% peak level all year round on any terrain

    Even cycling team bosses are publically calling out these extra terrestrial performances

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/totalenergies-team-boss-weighs-in-on-doping-debate-around-pogacar-let-him-provide-guarantees/ar-AA1CEemQ?


  • #284
    Macy0161
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,662 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I'm someone who's pretty uncomfortable with the team management and team history of UAE (enough I can't get fully aboard the Pog Love Train), but he lost me at "Ketones".



  • #285
    Torrey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Torrey


    The French are pissed that Pog isn't French basically



  • #286
    Mefistofelino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    That's this Jean-Rene Bernaudeau, yeah?

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