Trump - The positives - (see Mod note in OP)

Wouldn't worry about the jobs going back to the US. They're not. Companies are actually fleeing the US.

Most of that report is nonsensical hyperbole, though getting rid of producing pennies seems like a win, that's a positive I suppose, though not sure why the POTUS had to be involved.

I would think that, from the point of view of the native Americans, everyone in the US is an illegal immigrant

No its not because for decades, big corporations have been shipping jobs overseas, dodging taxes, and raking in huge profits while the American worker got left behind. These corporations sold everyone out and the politicans didn't even put up a fight. Trump is the only one who has called it out and is trying to reverse decades of bad policy. Other Politicans enabled as they support the corporate elite above everyone else.

That is whataboutery, as who cares about the view of the native Americans a few hundred years ago. America changed when Europeans arrived, no doubt about that. We are talking about Trump : this thread is about his positives. You do not think the fact Trump has massively reduced ilegal immigration in to the States is a positive?

One thing for sure, the course America was on a year or two ago is not sustainable.

President Biden has added $8.4 trillion to the USA national debt. At least Trump is trying to make America great again. Insanity would have bee doing the same thing Biden did - the USA could not borrow massively and live off cheap imports forever, while at the same time policing the world.

Can you define what great means to America? Because, as a US citizen, I think if no one in America went to bed hungry, everyone had a home to live in that was safe and secure, and health care that was cheap enough you didn't fear bankruptcy if you got a heart attack, would make a good start on greatness. What's your definition of 'great?'

MAGAts typically can't define it, much like they can't define woke.

Love him or hate him, there is no denying, he has a fine head of hair.

My comment was clearly tongue in cheek.

But, if you ignore the native Americans, the whole country is made up of immigrants. To oppose immigration is to suggest that migration has been a bad thing for the US. Much of the US economy depends, as it has always done, on the cheap labour that new immigrants inevitably provide. There are thousands of jobs that many MAGA supporters don't want to do. So no, I don't think restricting immigration is good for the US. Or for that matter, but it is another thread, for the EU or Ireland.

President Biden has added $8.4 trillion to the USA national debt. At least Trump is trying to make America great again. Insanity would have bee doing the same thing Biden did - the USA could not borrow massively and live off cheap imports forever, while at the same time policing the world.

In his first term, Trump added $7.8 trillion to the US debt. In his second, he's likely to add much more, as the combined effects of tax cuts and economic depression cause revenues to crater.

I think unfortunately there is a backlash among some men towards the Me Too movement. I'm concerned that the days when victims were not believed might return. The women who accused Trump and Kavanaugh suffered disbelief and humiliation to some extent from the MAGA people.

However I suspect at last there are the beginnings of criticism from the new voters that voted for him (he put a lot of effort into bringing out people who dont normally vote, who tend to be more anti-Establishment). At a recent Wrestlemania fight, he and UFC boss Dana White were booed. Usually they are cheered.

This is not "a positive" but helps explain the gender divide in the election.

But regarding were there any positive reasons people felt they were voting for Trump, or has anything positive come out of his election.

I think some issues that were swept under the carpet in the West regarding being taboo subjects, like questioning free trade, are now being debated more. And thats a good thing. People dont like hearing of companies moving out of their own country to China.

RFK Jr, the Health Secretary, has some eccentric ideas. But his plan to eliminate petroleum based additives from food sounds like a good idea.