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Abortion Discussion, Part the Fourth

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  • #3002
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Christianity continuing to make people think that all it's it's interested in is births.



  • #3003
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,179 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Not doing a very good job of it are they? Both infant and maternal mortality in the US are substantially more than in most developed countries.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • #3004
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,632 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122940454#Comment_122940454

    The cruelty is the point.

    That, and the profits.



  • #3005
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    In surprise news, a hospital controlled by the RCC is arguing in court that a fetus is not a 'person'. By a strange co-incidence, should the hospital lose the case, it could be required to pay substantial damages.

    https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2025/04/09/aiming-to-limit-damages-catholic-hospital-argues-a-fetus-isnt-the-same-as-a-person/



  • #3006
    volchitsa
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123382503#Comment_123382503

    Weirdly we've been here before with Catholic hospitals in America:

    https://annelandmanblog.com/2013/01/in-wrongful-death-suit-colorado-catholic-hospital-argues-fetuses-are-not-viable-persons/

    The hospital ended up having to drop that claim. Unsurprisingly, one would have thought, given the inconsistency with basic catholic teaching. So it's surprising to see the argument being trotted out again. Money talks, it seems. And has a very loud voice.

    ”I enjoy cigars, whisky and facing down totalitarians, so am I really Winston Churchill?” (JK Rowling)



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  • #3007
    wench
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    The latest case has also been walked back.


    https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2025/04/18/catholic-hospital-drops-legal-argument-that-a-fetus-is-not-a-person/

    The CEO of MercyOne, stated “we are heartbroken that our belief that human personhood begins at conception would ever be called into question. As a Catholic health system, the sanctity of life is not just a belief we hold; it is the foundation of every action we take.

    Who would have thought that their legal arguments stating that a fetus isn't a person would lead people to believe they don't think a fetus is a person (when convenient)



  • #3008
    volchitsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,608 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123389722#Comment_123389722

    What's really strange is that they don't seem to have foreseen that this would be a problematic defence for a catholic hospital to rely on. It was ridiculous back in 2013 - it's frankly bewildering to see them try it on again more than a decade later.

    ”I enjoy cigars, whisky and facing down totalitarians, so am I really Winston Churchill?” (JK Rowling)



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