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Andor [Disney+]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,587 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    That's a great idea. Get people into it.

    I just finished re-watching S1 last night (Last 2 episodes). And it holds up. The first couple were a bit slower than I remember but not dull.

    I like the idea of Season 2 basically being 3 or 4 chunks over the last 4 years up to Rogue 1. It ties in well with Season 1 which was also definitely broken into phases:

    1-3: Thief phase

    4-7: Heist/Empire Clampdown phase

    7-9: Prison/Awakening phase

    10-12:Rebellion phase

    For all the (Amazing) monologues posted above, there are still just so many excellent, smaller lines "What have you done for him lately?" "I don't have 'lately' I have ALWAYS" "They're so proud of themselves, so fat and satisfied. They can't imagine that anyone like me would ever get inside their house, walk their floors, spit in their food"

    Sure, Nemik (The "True Believer" kid on Aldahni) was a gonner the instant you saw him but tell me his lines aren't chilling at the moment. I had forgotten how easily Mon Mothra used her husband as a potential scapegoat for the money she syphoned away (Blaming him for gambling it away). Her arc will be very interesting next season (All those tense parties and "smile" and basically sacrificing her daughter). As long as they don't strike up some relationship between Dedra and Syril (Dedra & The Dweeb). He's obsessed with her and she is repulsed by him. I suppose they might do something whereby she initiates something despite her revulsion only to throw him under the star-bus later.

    That hateful tiny mother's GOTTA die 😁 EASILY the most evil thing in the show. Makes Dedra look positively fluffy.

    Oh, and I FINALLY realised where I had seen the major from. He's the evil maestor in Game of Thrones! I KNEW I'd seen him being casually evil before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,587 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Im wondering if Syril might have a road to Damascus moment and switch allegiance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    I think he'll just be kicked to the kerb by Dedra. Possibly not even die. Just to waste away, a pathetic little man, believing in an Empire that doesn't even know he exists. If he does die, it will be in a way that he would probably think is heroic but, in reality, is small and inconsequential.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,587 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    3 episode premiere on Tuesday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,587 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    w7qave5rmote1.jpeg

    Wow it looks like they will be releasing 3 episodes each week for 4 weeks.

    So it will be one of the 4 arcs released each week. Nice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,787 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Early reviews apparently universally ecstatic

    Not just some of the best Star Wars ever made, but some of the best television period.”

    Everything you want & more. It’s a miracle.”

    really pscyhed for it now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Ah balls. Thought it was released this morning Irish time, not the small hours of tomorrow morning.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    Boo, trakt was telling me they released at 8 this morning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,519 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Damn. Ah well, guess it's just more time for me to rewatch Luthen and Marva's speeches again about 18 times each.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,583 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    The one SW spin off series that wasn't poor.

    I didn't even watch the last 2 spin-off shows, but will be watching this for sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭fran38


    I must be cuckoo staying up waiting for it to drop.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Just watched the first two episodes this morning and god it's good to have this back.

    Without going into specifics, I adore how 'lived in' it has made the Star Wars universe feel. Even in its finest previous incarnations, it's not exactly a world that feels 'deep' beyond the visual design. Characters exist to serve their (usually plot) purpose. But this has a real sense of galaxy-wide machinations and consequences that really goes far beyond what was put on screen in even the original trilogy.

    New episodes hit the ground running thankfully with several exciting, pacy plots running simultaneously. Loving it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,561 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Can't wait to see it tonight. Should have watched a bit this morning.

    if I could do it again, I'd wake up early.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    I was going to re-watch the first season in preparation, but never got around to it. So I was glad to see there is a 14-minute recap available to watch. I would recommend it if your memory is a bit hazy like mine!

    Great first episode. Cassian's Tie Fighter heist was great fun. I wasn't sure about the three episodes a week but can't wait to watch ep 2 when I get home after work. I think this is the best Star Wars live action work since The Empire Strikes Back. Tony Gilroy just gets it in a way Filoni and Favreau don't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,787 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Just watched the first episode so far, found the storytelling a lot more propulsive and punchy than series 1, fewer muttered allusive conversations. Likely this is mostly because I'm now familiar with the characters and get most of the references…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,587 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Eoin McLovin posted it a few posts above.

    Its very well done, the last few minutes of the recap is very moving.

    Andor is far and away the best thing Star Wars has produced.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Oof, second half of episode three really nails the end of this arc. In pure filmmaking terms some of the best Star Wars we’ve seen - exceptional editing.

    Mon Mothma rave was not the vibe I expected, but I’ll happily take it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,470 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    a year between each segment!

    what happens to the people on wheat planet, Cassian very selfish.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,561 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ya that could have been awful cheesy like the wedding traditions which are always terrible in TV shows but it looked great.

    In general this show does an amazing job with sound. The music is so often a big part of the scene and is rarely just background noise. The flyover shot as the music changes speed at the funeral is one of my favourite bits of TV.

    Some of the subtle expressions are great too. The way Luthien and Mon keep flipping between anger, tears and joy as they move through the crowd or practically anything Dedra does with her face. That dinner scene was great fun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,519 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah the wedding scenes very nearly came across as being overwritten, like just inventing a bunch of weird traditions into it to make it interesting, but the levels of formality and tradition involved then contrast with Mon Mothma absolutely giving it socks on the dancefloor, yet still conveying levels of rage, resignation and sadness about what she knew was about to befall her benefactor while keeping up appearances, was absolutely stunning.

    Sad to have lost Brasso though. He didn't have much time to really shine in Season 1 but thought he could have been a great addition for Season 2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,561 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Losing Brasso was tough after already being through so much.

    What is it about engineers. Bix quickly racking up Mile O'Brien levels of personal horror.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Brilliant! Tony Gilroy has done a magnificent job on this. The writing, production, sets, lighting, directing, casting are all superb. If Disney had any sense, they'd be getting him to run Star Wars, not let him go.

    I didn't care too much for most of Cassian's scenes, on the planet with the morons. But still, overall, top notch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,561 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    That planet scene was a chore. I assume was about tying him up for a bit and showing that he is now a fairly competent operator.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,519 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah it wasn't great, and didn't help that the morons were too comical in their arguing. Not that there's not a place for that, but it just undercut the desperation and urgency they should have been feeling, and the animosity that could then grow from that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,687 ✭✭✭Acosta


    That scene with Bix and the Officer in the third episode though.... They hinted something might happen earlier, but I was still wasn't sure if they'd go there.. Just another example of how different and grown up this show is compared to everything else that's been before. That's not dig at other Star Wars, but I'm so glad this show is what it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,561 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Wasn't shocked with the scene because it will just go over children's heads but actually having her say the word rape was a surprise.

    How Andor does evil and flawed heros is just so much better than the black leather bondage panto villain style that some other stuff like Star Trek has done recently.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,849 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    I hope we get some sort of scene between the high level leadership in the Empire. See a meeting between the Emperor, Tarkin, Yularin, Thrawn, Krennic etc. I'm surprised that none of the shows have touched on the Chiss and the Grysk as an enemy, given the plots laid down in the new Thrawn and Empire novels.



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