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Noel Kelly and Tubridy submit data request

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,298 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    PR spin trying to make people feel sorry for him, as if he was an innocent victim in all of this……you've obviously fallen for it yourself……

    "Gave half his life to RTE" - If that means earning in excess of 7.5 million over the span of 12 year 2010 - 2022, for a part time job, talking dung and spinning yearns - sign me up. I'd be all to willing to give half my life to RTE as well, as I'd suspect 99 percent of people on this forum would.

    Underpaid? I have very little time in general for spoofers getting paid hundred and thousands annually while those that do real work struggle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭Ardent


    Yeah, we're all charismatic, articulate geniuses on here who would easily perform in front of cameras, lights and live audiences, on national TV. And do it all for <€50k and a packet of crisps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,899 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Are you claiming Tubs was a charismatic, articulate genius?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    There are lots of things most of us can't do. I can't service a boiler, give a decent haircut, make a pair of jeans, install an electric shower or fix the throttle cable on my lawnmower. How many of the people who can do these things are considered talented? And how many do you think should be paid multiples of your salary?

    The people who get in front of the camera are not special exalted beings, chosen by the gods of celebrity because they are talented. They just found a job. Some of them are good at it and some of them aren't.

    I don't even know why I'm expressing an opinion. I haven't had a TV license in over 20 years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    You are allowed have an opinion / criticisms of people. I don't pay my TV license since the fall out of the scandal, I still believe in Public Service Broadcasting but not what RTÉ is providing.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭RoTelly



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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭hawley


    Fair enough if RTE is still squandering money. Tubridy can't be blamed for that. If this ends up in litigation or another public enquiry, it will cost millions in legal fees. Tubs and NK must feel pretty certain that they'll be in the clear, if they're willing to go down this path. Can sue them for wrongful dismissal and reputational damage. Helped build up the brand of the Toy Show. RTE made money selling Toy Show pyjamas and goody bags.

    Post edited by hawley on

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,297 ✭✭✭Trampas


    I never understand how rte still give this company business. All part of the issue and still give him more money with new contracts. If tubs salary in uk anything to go by min wage for most of them instead of whatever they’re paying them



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭Havenowt


    I think think his stable of talent would likely leave him if he starts to dictate where they work. They don't work for him, he works for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Are they actually going down the road of litigation or is it just in the hope that they will embarrass RTÉ?


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭hawley


    Scapegoated, shamed, suspended, sacked and shunned by RTÉ, but Ryan Tubridy is now haunting the corridors of Donnybrook. The former star presenter is seeking the internal documents from RTÉ in the run-up to his naming and blaming as being at the centre of the crisis in the national broadcaster.

    https://m.independent.ie/news/fionnan-sheahan-exiled-ryan-tubridy-now-wants-data-watchdog-to-get-him-1000-documents-on-payments-scandal/a1131477561.html

    I can't access the rest of the article, but it definitely seems to be becoming a lot more serious. I honestly think that Tubs would be better off leaving the past in the past. He has done quite well for himself since leaving RTE and has embarked on a new journey in his life. He has embraced living in London.

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,755 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Does tubridy still have those rumoured presidential ambitions, I wonder?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭hawley


    I would seriously doubt it at this stage. The scandal is far too recent. Am surprised at the level this is going to. It was only in January that he said that he had moved on from what happened. This could even up costing RTE a packet. Will be interesting to see if Dee Forbes will be dragged back into it.

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭Terence Rattigan


    His ego won’t allow him to move on. Had he paid back the 150k and offered even a half hearted mea culpa he’d be back in the fold by now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭DaithiMa


    Build up the brand of the toy show? More like absolutely ruined the toy show and made it all about his own brand... The Toyman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    That 'Toyman' schtick always felt a bit off, didn't it?

    He wasn't the originator of the Toyshow and his cloyingly tragic attempts to make himself synonymous with it were just pathetic. It was smelled desperate, he might as well have pranced around in a tshirt with "Love me, please love me. Why don't you love me?" printed on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭hawley


    I don't remember the Toy Show ever being such a big deal before he started presenting it. He definitely was the catalyst in turning it into such a huge show. RTE wouldn't have countenanced making a musical based around it during Pat Kenny's reign. Tubs definitely built a relationship with the children of Ireland where they'd almost become giddy at the sight of him. He got massive ratings for the Toy Show and was commercially successful for RTE. Don't think that he was involved with Toy Show musical. Would be interesting to find out how much RTE made from Ryan presenting the Toy Show.

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,633 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Sure Ryan, we'll get right on that, just as soon as you return the money like you promised for the work that was never done!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    I remember the toyshow being a massive deal for us in the 80s. We were allowed to stay up late to watch it, there were treats and a general air of festivity. In school the following Monday the only topic of conversation was the toys. This was in the depths of the recession, when plenty of people got a book, a toy and a new jumper for Christmas and that was that. If you got a selection box too you were doing very well. None of us were ever going to get anything we had seen on the Toyshow for Christmas but we could dream…

    I remember Gay Byrne and Frank McNamara messing around with water guns - the anarchy! I simultaneously loathed and envied the Billy Barry Kids - in fact, all the lucky children who got to present a toy. The technology on display was, to our young minds, indistinguishable from magic. Some of my memories are probably from the early 90s, still long before Tubs started aping the American late night shows while interviewing RTE D-list slebs.

    It's true that Kenny wasn't exactly a natural at the Toyshow, and perhaps some of the steam went out of it during his tenure but it's not true that it wasn't a big deal before Tubridy took the reins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 679 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    Other memories popping up…

    Bosco making an appearance on the Toyshow. I had been a big fan of Bosco but had outgrown him. He appeared from behind a convenient bit of plywood set and began giving Gaybo mild cheek. I can still picture it now. He interrupted Gay, said something like, 'You don't have to introduce me, the boys and girls already know who I am.' Deep down I still loved Bosco and I was delighted to see him acting up a bit. Gay turned to talk to the camera and Bosco did a mad little wave behind his back. As soon as Gay turned to face him again he froze. This, to me, was bloody hilarious. Funny how I can't remember what I watched on Netflix last night but I can recall that moment from 40 years ago.

    In fairness to him, Gay did a very good 'straight man' and always gave the impression during the Toyshow that he was a serious TV host whose studio had inexplicably been invaded by unpredictable children and it was up to him to keep the show on the road without allowing the tone to be lowered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,265 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Tubridy ruined the Toy Show, not made it.

    He tried to turn it into a production in which HE was the star. The toys and the kids were just a necessary inconvenience to him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭tom23


    If that actually we should create another bank holiday celebrate it. Noel Kelly pulling the talent. Funniest line I’ve read on this site.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭hawley


    He turned some of the Toy Show children into stars. Thinking of the likes of young Adam from Cork and John Joe. He became quite friendly with a number of them and often called to visit them during his summer holidays. He got huge viewership figures for the Toy Show. I think that he should move on from all of this. Is he pushing to get back into RTE on his old terms?

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,720 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Absolutely agree with Tubridy ruining the Toy Show. Year after year threads complaining that there were very few toys on the Toy Show. It simply became The Tubridy Show. Where an overgrown hyper schoolboy was allowed run free for a few hours.

    He was often rude to the kids and dismissive of toys that didn't work immediately - often throwing things away to the side. In contrast Patrick Kielty was calm, encouraging and genuine with the children. I remember remarking as one child couldn't get something to work how Kielty calmly said "Don't worry about that one, we'll try this one" encouraging the child without embarrassing them. Tubridy would have thrown it across the room "for laughs" and rushed the child along.

    That's not to take from the fact that he did focus on the sick kids and those in need and the show raised lots of money and awareness of various issues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,298 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    I don't think wrongful dismissal is on the cards. Didn't he announce he was leaving himself earlier that year and wasn't he on an annual contract? Not sure of the details.

    Reputational damage might be the angle they are going for but either way he is getting very badly advised if he thinks this might be the way back onto our screens. RTE is a shambles and the money being squandered there annually is beyong crazy. This organisation are both state sponsored and sponsored by a mandated fee on every house in the state - and they are pi$$ing money away like it is confetti. If anything the state broadcaster should have a salary cap and it should be used as a "training ground" for those that wish to learn whatever trade they are in so they can go make the higher money elsewhere. Paying the likes of Tubridy, Joe et all the hundreds of thousands per year for part time jobs is ridiculous in the environment they are in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    You’d wonder what Virgin think of all of this, dragging up the scandal again when it was largely it seems forgotten by many at this stage. It’s hardly good for them or their brand to have this stuff play out in public and have the accusations of financial impropriety and Tubridy and Kelly’s disastrous Oireachtas Committee Hearing appearance brought up again and again as they try and position Ryan as a leading broadcaster in the UK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭tom23


    The Toyshow was about Turbridy. Nothing else. He thought he was the John Lewis Christmas ad, it had to be bigger and more emotional every year to satisfy his ego. Announcing to kids who lived in hotels with all the sincerity of a wet fart that 'Santy' would find them. Box ticked. All the RTE execs nodding and clapping. ffs.

    Gay Byrne owned the toyshop. simple as that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭hawley


    He announced that he was stepping down from the Late Late Show. He was going to continue presenting on Radio One and was also going to film documentaries, in lieu of presenting the Late Late Show. Something along the lines of Mike Murphy in Australia or Michael Portillo's travels. He was burnt out from the Late Late Show, especially after Covid. I'd imagine that Virgin aren't too bothered about this resurfacing. Most of his audience are oblivious to it. It's a bit like Zhao winning the snooker or Jannik Sinner returning to play tennis again. People are always more forgiving of the big stars.

    Communication was the greatest fatality



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