Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

So now, shortly after female fencer Stephanie Turner was expelled from a USA Fencing tournament for refusing to compete against a male opponent entered as a woman, this happened:

What are the chances, eh?

The headline should read 25 trandgender athletes you know but shouldn't.

Honestly it really does turn my stomach to see media outlets platform these nobodies in this way, complete with 'Getty Images'. What they deserve is their sporting records to be erased and to go back to being the average nobodies they are, not lauded as 'trans sporting celebs'.

Huge victory. Women in Britain and many other western nations are owed an apology. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end for men competing in women's sport.

Its a disgrace that it ever occured in the first place, even at a fun kid level.

Fairness and competition should be at the heart of sport, feelings are secondary.

I guess that's the downside of activism. As I said in the other thread nearly all good changes came through it but you need to know where to stop. Otherwise people get hurt.

Anyone who supported this movement owes biological women a massive apology. I never did so I'm comfortable in my position.

Sinn Fein have lost the plot in this regard. History won't look kindly.

JK Rowling has been vindicated.

The amount of hate that was thrown at her from so called progressive people over the past few years was shocking.

What shocks me the most is how idiotic it became and illogical. Why can’t Trans exist the same as the rest of us, the same rights & equalities without stripping away eroding women’s sex based rights? Women’s biology is at last protected separate from men and men can dress whatever way they like, feel like whoever they want.. but they are not women.

People who should know better, don’t. Still the cries from the usual suspects that I simply don’t get. People who are normally quite logical and rational coming out with nonsense today. This is not an opinion based issue, it’s fact. It’s law.

Well done to all the women who have been fighting years for legal clarity.

The problem is TERFs have problem with intersex individuals. To them, all intersex individuals are men.

It's great to see such a clear unambiguous straightforward decision. There is no higher court to appeal to in the UK, so that is fantastic news for Women's sex-based rights.

And of course, in the context of this thread, it means that having sex-based categories in sports now has full 100% unambiguous legal backing in the UK. There is no possible conflict with any other rights/discrimination laws. This is fantastic news.

With our own legal system also being a common law system derived from the British system, hopefully this decision will have an influence on any legal questioning of sports governing bodies' authority to declare that sex-based categories can use sex characteristics to determine eligibility for those categories, regardless of gender identity (or any other characteristic).

It blows away the arguments of posters on this thread who have questioned that sex-based categories might conflict with anti-discrimination laws. In the UK at least, the opposite now appears to be the case.

There's no need to ban anyone. World Athletics is leading the way here. They are now moving to have a simple swab test to determine eligibility to compete in the female category. Anyone who is not eligible to compete in the female category will be free to compete in the male category. No bans are required.

Well the judges themselves have pointed out that this decision does not remove any protections from trans identifying individuals. And I fully share your hope that it will not be used to try to ostracise trans women (AND trans men) in general.

I can't think of any sport that isn't trying to fit trans competitors into their sport. Everyone fits into either the male or female sex category irrespective of their gender identity. Sex is binary. Nobody is prevented from competing, whether cisgender or transgender.

TRAs have been strongly opposed to trans-only categories. They assert that trans women are just as much women as cisgender women. So I don't think that will be found to be an acceptable solution for TRAs.

But they're not being banned. Intersex females can take part in the female categories of their sports, intersex males in the male categories.

And if Imane Khelif or Caster Semenya turn out to be genetically female then they can take part in female sports.

(That's a very big "if" though)

Right so 5 and a half years after the South Park aired an episode with Macho Man Randy Savage as a trans athlete beating the **** out of actual female competitors, the UK supcom has ruled that women are women and not bio men who signed a GRC form.

Common sense not as common as previously thought, but was under attack by govt. funded NGO's (foreign and domestic), and the finance industry.

And now we've got almost 20% of kids in school identifying as LGBTQ+

Call me cynical but I'd say the damage has already been done. Is this matter even before the courts here and if so will a higher EU court take a different view?

While I do believe in biological sex (I dress as a woman but I am not delusional - I'll always be a man), the problem is sometimes biological sex is way more complex than we think.

Humans exist with a wide variety of chromosomal sexes other than XX/XY- XX and XY do not always map to gender expression.

I know people who were assigned male at birth, grew up as male, then discovered in adulthood they were chromosomally female, despite their male genitals.

So, how do you classify them? Male? Female? Both? Special exemption?