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Dublin Bus fleet

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,636 bk
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    Yes, the NTA placed their first order with Wrightbus back in June 2022, the first Double Decker BZL's didn't arrive until 2023 (though single deckers were around earlier).

    I've no idea if true, but I also remember another poster saying in the past that the contract for the SG class was with Volvo, not Wrightbus and that Volvo were responsible for service and maintenance, but the NTA weren't happy with the service, which is why they might have tried ADL for the PA's. Again I've no idea if true.

    These BZL's are made in Turkey by MCV. Volvo Chassis, MCV body.

    I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing that our buses are made just up the road and the relationship is with one company, the manufacture of both chassis and body. That should make support easier.

    The Electroliners are extremely popular in the UK, Go Ahead UK recently placed an order for 1,200 of them over 3 years! And they seem to be working quiet well for us, despite some issues.

    Having said that, it is great that there are more options now, these are the double deckers widely available:

    • Wrightbus Electroliner
    • ADL Enviro400EV (the new ones, with CATL batteries and no involvement with BYD).
    • Volvo/MCV BZL
    • BYD BD11

    No idea what has been going on with Switch/Optare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 AX636
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    What is was told BK, at the of the hybrids being ordered the Volvo hybrid (VH fleet) was the first choice but since Wrightbus went bust at the time it went to ADL, that was from someone in the engineering department that said it. So take it as it is

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 p_haugh
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    The Volvo hybrids were VH not the AH. The AHs were the ADL hybrids on trial.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 AX636
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,034 thomasj
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    Had an unfortunate incident with one of the new EW class buses just after Hartstown roundabout yesterday . It broke down . Given the setup of the road , it was a bit tough for people getting off the bus etc.

    It was still there 90 minutes later when I passed that area again .

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 Tom Sanders
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    @bk Multiple reasons, just being newer they have less wear and tear and look in much better condition while the AX/EV look like their falling apart.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 dublincc2
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    Was on one of the new Wrightbus GB Hawk single deckers in Belfast recently, very comfortable ride experience and smooth journey. Why don’t NTA order some of these to replace the noisy, rattly and uncomfortable Streetlite pieces of s**t? GAI could use them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 hfjm20
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    Would love if we got some of the Gb Kite Electroliner or even some of the newer Enviro200evs for GAI. Not 100% necessary though so likely not to happen for a while. The NTA should make GAI transition to bev in general asap



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,636 bk
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    Nothing to do with GAI. Nearly all the buses that GAI use are owned by the NTA. GAI will move to BEV as soon as the NTA buy them BEV buses.

    But, the NTA aren't replacing newer buses with BEV, they are only replacing the oldest buses with BEV's as the oldest buses approach retirement age. The Streetlites are only 6 or 7 years old, so unfortunately likely to be around for many years to come.

    The NTA have more immediate needs like having to retire the remaining 15+ year old single door double deckers.



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