Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Your posts have been defending and justifying war crimes since day one. The above post is a prime example.

You justify the murder of innocent Palestinians as a natural by-product of the campaign against Hamas/Iran - you even use the word "legitimate".

The IOF at it again -

"(New York) – Israeli military forces caused deaths and unnecessary suffering of Palestinian patients while occupying hospitals in the Gaza Strip during the current hostilities, amounting to war crimes, Human Rights Watch said today. 

Witnesses at three hospitals told Human Rights Watch that Israeli forces denied electricity, water, food, and medicines to patients; shot civilians; mistreated health workers; and deliberately destroyed medical facilities and equipment. Unlawful forced evacuations put patients at grave risk and left desperately needed hospitals nonfunctional. "

https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/03/20/gaza-israeli-military-war-crimes-while-occupying-hospitals

Mistakes?? So cutting off food, water, electricity and medicine was a mistake? Jesus. Shooting dead 15 aid workers and burying their bodies, ambulances etc in a shallow grave was a mistake? Bombing hospitals, schools, UN depots etc etc ….. all mistakes?

The hipocrisy of Palestinian deaths v Israeli deaths plus the atrocities not resulting in death is evident and sickening.

Israelis are wailing and gnashing their teeth day in and day out about hostages being starved by Hamas. Palestinian child, starved to death in an Israeli prison - crickets.

Israelis disgusted and outraged at alleged sexual violence by Hamas on Oct 7th. Palestinian prisoner raped with an iron bar - tumbleweed.

UN offered an independent investigation of sexual violence by Hamas as long as Israel allowed them also to investigate sexual violence against Palestinians. Israel declined both. Surprise.

I looks like whenever a "mistake" happens, the IDF lie about it unless and until they are caught. Even then, they never come out and admit it. It makes me think that many of these incidents were not actual mistakes at all.
i wouldn't be surprised if the IDF murdered those 15 medics knowing full well what they were doing. Whether they were Hamas or just plain Palestinians, makes no difference. They were the "enemy".

Israel went into berserker mode months ago and have totally lost the plot of what it means to be a "democracy". Nihilistic dictatorship seems closer to the truth.

Some good news for a change -

"France plans to recognise a Palestinian state within months and could make the move at a UN conference in New York in June on settling the Israel-Palestinian conflict, president Emmanuel Macron said in an interview broadcast on Wednesday."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/apr/10/france-palestinian-state-emmanuel-macron-israel-middle-east-crisis-latest-updates-news

Pretending war crimes are happening there doesn't make it so, looking at the updated casualties, it's young fighting men that are being hit back by the IDF.

Technology and modern intel sourcing are making this one of the cleaner wars, it doesn't mean its nice or good, it just means that they are being very successful in targeting Hamas and limiting casualties as much as they can, that's not fool proof but the effort is there and most armies wouldn't even try .

The war ends the day the Gazans want it to will that day ever come?

That is literally one of the most ridiculous things I’ve read on this thread. I normally don’t comment, as there is really no point arguing with the Israeli zealots, but Jesus Christ, this takes the biscuit. From “pretend war crimes” to “young fighting men” being hit, to “one of the cleaner wars”. I’d say you couldn’t make it up, except you just did.

Anyone justifying, defending, supporting Israel's campaign in Gaza, which has resulted in the murder of over 50,000 women and children, is devoid of any humanity and in my opinion, a disgrace.

That anyone would support the cold-blooded murder of 15 medics with the IDF lying through their teeth about what happened is equally abhorrent.

Folks might remember the apoplectic outrage when anyone questioned if either the IDF had killed Israelis on Oct 7th or questioned those reports of babies in microwaves, babies sliced out of their mother's wombs or babies beheaded. Yet when 15 medics are murdered, or 500 kids are killed in the space of 24 days (that's one child per hour, every hour), we get utterly disgusting comments on how restrained the IDF are.

The IDF restraint is as visible as their ability to tell the truth.

When this is over, those people should look in the mirror and hang their heads in utter shame. Just like German civilians did when the horrors of the Holocaust were revealed in full.

A fairly long report from the BBC. Here's a snippet (hint - Israel has broken every single Convention):

On Tuesday the UN secretary general warned that Israel's blockade of Gaza was violating the Geneva Conventions and the territory was becoming a "killing field". On Monday the heads of six UN aid agencies appealed to the world to act to save the people of Gaza, and to uphold basic international law.

The Geneva Conventions are founded on the following principles:

1. Medical staff and hospitals in warzones must be protected and allowed to work freely
2. Those wounded in battle and no longer fighting are entitled to medical treatment
3. Prisoners of war must be treated humanely
4. Warring parties are obliged to protect civilians (this includes a prohibition on the targeting of civilian infrastructure such as power and water supplies).

A strategy can be a mistake if it blows up in your face, and this certainly seems to have done so.

That said, Israel's underlying geopolitical problems would be beyond horrifying regardless.

Shameful and totally dishonest post. You have some neck.

The zionists are enacting a genocide, that much is clear at this stage.

More on those dead paramedics -

"The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) unit involved in the killings of 15 Palestinian paramedics and rescue workers in the Gaza Strip last month was under the command of a brigade led by a notorious Israeli general previously accused by some of his own troops of having “contempt for human life”.

During the Rafah attack, the Golani troops were under the command of the reservist Armoured 14th Brigade. The 14th Brigade is part of a division led by Brig Gen Yehuda Vach, who former officers say designated an unofficial “kill zone” elsewhere in the strip which resulted in the arbitrary killings of Palestinian civilians. Soldiers also alleged Vach’s “lack of operational discipline” endangered soldiers’ lives.

Vach has also told troops “there are no innocents in Gaza”, according to an investigation by the Israeli daily Haaretz."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/12/idf-unit-killing-palestinian-paramedics-golani-brigade?fbclid=IwY2xjawJnPr5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHojVFIQoDQD0YngBfvcugTzkOfpTI3Q3ipKsRlzO1t-vh4OmH37wpLu7tgE0_aem_RWm4OLm4GCZG223vhjP3xw

Israel turning the screw and expanding their Genocide and War Crimes.