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Trump - The positives - (see Mod note in OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,194 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    You used 2 question marks. I have answered both.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭pureza


    Trump didn’t use Martin

    Martin was a guest whilst Trump spoke his usual lines which he speaks at all possible occasions

    Nothing unique

    My question to you is So?

    Martin did good today,you and your lot would have had our ship in the rocks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,194 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Yes, I have said MM did well in what he set out to do. Be polite, deferential and cautious. He kept his mouth shut, took the abuse and threats to our economy and we’ll all live happily ever after.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭pureza


    I said he did well

    Which is not the same as your position ‘he did well in what he set out to do’

    Your statement as indicated in your other posts means he should have set us onto the rocks instead

    Stupid position



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,194 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    This is like the years of nonsense about the Aople money.

    You scaremonger about doing something enough it becomes a truism.

    Did French US relations go on ‘the rocks’ when Macron interrupted Trump to correct him on the EU ‘loaning’ Ukraine money?

    No, it didn’t. Macron’s visit is seen as a success. We seem to be joyful because MM got away with it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,960 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    What is even stupider about a boycott is that the person you were boycotting didn't even know you were boycotting them and didn't know who you were.

    If ever a political stunt completely backfired, it was MLMD's "boycott".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭pureza


    ah utter nonsense

    France is a bit bigger than Ireland,one of the worlds largest economies and a nuclear power

    Continue with the SF talking points if you like ,they’re stupid



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,194 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I have no idea what SF are saying.

    So the old inferiority complex is alive and well. Little old Ireland, sure we just have to take the soup.

    Contrary to the rubbish talked here, I have praised FF and FG when they stood up for this country in the Brexit **** show.
    They did that with no fear of the consequences and in spite of threats from a country arguably as rogue as the US is under Trump.
    i cannot praise MM for his performance. It was sycophantic and weak.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭pureza


    More Rubbish

    Ireland had the full might of the EU behind her during the Brexit negotiations

    As for your SF talking points,I’m pretty sure this place is supposed to be a discussion forum not a soap box



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,194 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Exactly.
    And Ireland as represented by MM allowed Trump to use it to threaten and demean the EU today. Some payback.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭pureza


    You either have no grasp of Trumps modus operandi with everyone in the world that’s not maga USA ,which is extremely unlikely and how to handle same or you’re just going on with your usual SF grá in

    Discussion fans don’t come here for the kind of drivel I’ve read over multiple posts tonight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,194 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I fully grasp Trump.

    Should Zellenskyy have done what MM did?
    Shoukd Macron have allowed him to diss the EU?

    Shoukd Stammer have corrected him when he talked about Doonbeg being in the UK?

    Maybe Trump is an issue because people defer to him in fear of a bollicking?

    That was some posters advice to MM after all - the cringe ‘don’t poke the bear’ subservient stuff.
    The metaphorical aircraft carrier rocking up to your coast bearing gifts.

    Not a world I want to live in and I don’t give a damn what SF, FF, FG, PBP or anyone else thinks. I can think for myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,565 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    That seemed to be Zelensky's plan but trump/vance decided to go with a performance for the maga loons instead (the subtext they try to drive on Ukraine was that it's all Biden's fault for letting it happen while also wanting revenge on Zelensky for the "perfect phone call").



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 43,970 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Mod: Francie is on a months leave



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Bottom line is Trump and Vance had one eye on the huge Irish diaspora when conducting those meetings this week.

    Hence Vances Irish socks, green tie and the hospitality Martins deligation was shown all through the day.

    They poke the Irish bear at their peril and they know it. Vance especially as he will probably be running again.

    If this administraton are deliberately going to run Ireland into the ground with tarriffs they will have a huge problem on their hands.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 43,970 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    If this administraton are deliberately going to run Ireland into the ground with tarriffs they will have a huge problem on their hands.

    If they impose tariffs on the EU then they impose them on Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    But they tend to pick categories of items, like Steel, Aluminum, Wine, champagne and spirits. Ok that screws up Irish whiskey. But he might hold off on pharmaceuticals and microchips.

    His goal is to bring back chip manufacturing and pharmaceuticals to the USA. But he will eventually realize companies can't get engineers to fill those manufacturing plants cost effectively. None of those engineers will get out of bed for anything less than $50+ an hour in the USA. Even if they are actually available for work in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,318 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Oh well, talking about stopping demonizing data centres and how we need more of them not to be left out on AI isn't exactly protecting the welfare of the Irish people. Mainly when we consider that we do have one of the most expensive rates for electricity and also considering crazy idea of feeding them new ones with new solar and wind energy dream plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,357 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I do admire his stance on illegal immigration, even a judge's halt order don't stop his deportation flights

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    So you're in favour of a President disobeying the law of the land?

    You realise that is dictatorial, don't you?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,960 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Well, actually it is quite definitely protecting the welfare of the Irish people. No data centres and you won't get any more investment from technology companies, simple as that, watch the jobs go down the drain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,318 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Lol that's complete rubbish. The only investment from tech companies coming in is because of Ireland's tax policies.

    We do not have location or workforce attractive enough for them to invest heavily or even meaningfully. We are way too expensive from wages to accommodation to living standard just to mention a few. Running existing data centers is way too expensive and we can pretty much forget about building new as we do not have infrastructure to support them anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,960 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    That is so short-sighted it is unbelievable. Ireland needs to keep reinventing itself all the time. Turning down data centres is a really stupid decision.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,608 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Specifically what tax policies that are not available elsewhere are driving current investment?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 43,970 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    So us having a well educated workforce with a strong direction towards STEM subjects along with a stable political landscape, a relatively stable climate and we're the main English speaking country within the EU all are meaningless when Tech MNCs are looking for locations?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,318 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    All correct however you fail to realize size of our country. There is not enough of "well educated workforce" to meet the demand the point that we are told that we need to import more of these. Which is in turn creating problems of its own with everything from housing, health, education just to name a few.

    Investment is fine but government is not investing where they need to invest to attract meaningful investment from businesses. Our grid for example is at full capacity so any new power hungry investments like data centers are not feasible without improving and expanding what we currently have available. Solar and wind fantasy isn't going to cut it we need constant reliable power production and not weather dependent one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,806 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The only investment from tech companies coming in is because of Ireland's tax policies.

    We do not have location or workforce attractive enough for them to invest heavily or even meaningfully. 

    You are so, so wrong on this it's laughable

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Yep, agree 100%

    It was one of the dumbest comments I've seen on here in a while, and that's saying something. The poster is clearly not educated on the subject whatsoever.

    Save boards.ie by subscribing:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,676 ✭✭✭Field east


    I wonder how many of the ‘POSITIVES’ are now seen as negatives/ no longer positives when one considers the behaviour of Trump over the past few weeks- and especially over the past few days?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    That statment reads like the majority of the comments you see on sites such as the daily torygraph under any articles related to Ireland - mainly all bitter reform, edl and britain first people with a major chip on their shoulder over anything remotely related to Ireland.



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