M11/N11 - M50 (J4) to Coyne's Cross (J14) [options published]

Now that we are officially in election mode, will be interesting see what promises are made on this project. At a minimum canvassers need to be asked about extra buses. The 6.30am 133 left passengers behind in Kilpedder last week as it was full. And the n11 itself is now backed up to before jn12 at the same time some mornings.

Am I misremembering or was the bus lane scheme once described as "quick-build".

Each new iteration of it has added more and more infrastructure - this thread started in 2016! Not a single thing has been done in the intervening period other than the production of multiple reports and consultations. But 1000s of houses have been built and moved into all along the N11.

This is all totally inadequate and a waste of money. This needs 3 lanes running traffic each way. If they do what they now say they'll be ripping it all up again soon after.

It makes zero sense.

There was a comprehensive proposed solution here that is inevitable but has also been sidelined for this.

This proposed mess even has the word "interim" on it. They are telling us they going to blow our money essentially on a couple of bus lanes.

The Greens are gone. It's time to just do this properly in the first instance.

More lanes is the temp solution! This actual stretch has had enough redesigns and aux lanes to prove that the traffic just expands to fill it (as someone who has been commuting it (by car) for over 20 years!).

having looked at the plans, I actually think the main reason they have to close the Herbert Road junction is because of the active travel requirement. They could easily leave it open for exit-only from the N11, there's never a queue there and very few cars use it to go south on the N11.

But they have to get cyclists (and to a lesser extent pedestrians) off the hard-shoulder to accommodate the bus-lane and that means building an off-line cycle path between J6 and J7 which goes across the Herbert Rd. junction. This would be completely unsafe with the junction still open.