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Are asexuals 'fake oppressed'? **Mod Note in Post #221**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,242 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    I get pretty tired of those who feel they need and want attention at all times for being ',them'.

    Who the £@@@ cares. Go do whatever it is you want to do, or not as the case maybe, and leave others alone.

    This need to shove you're label into another's face is boring and bloody tedious.

    I admire JK Rowling.

    We need more like her who aren't afraid to speak out. I appreciate she hadn't much to lose unlike Graham Lenihan, who lost so much just by voicing his opinion.

    Liberals. I wish they had the intelligence to know the meaning of the word.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,416 ✭✭✭crusd


    The only people shoving things in people face are those with a desire to be permanently outraged. Do you have an inability to skim past something that is not relevant to you? Do you beleive everything is about you? It maybe be something you need to reflect on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    I don't think people are outraged, I think people are just pointing out how nonsensical this international asexual day is.JK Rowling seems to be taking the piss out of it rather than being outraged by it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,416 ✭✭✭crusd


    would you know anything about only for JK Rowlings desire to be permanently outraged?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    Did I write chloroform?? Typo, I think - clearly I meant chlorophyll. The point being that asexual reproduction is a thing for plants, but that doesn't mean it's meaningful for humans - because we can't reproduce asexually, any more than we can produce or use chlorophyll.

    In other words, humans cannot be asexual. They can be atheists because religion is a belief. Sex is not.

    Amoral - no morals, but again that refers to a philosophy.

    I don't know what Amensia means, perhaps amnesia? (which is ironic considering you're complaining about my typo!) but loss of memory is a thing that exists. Loss of sex, not so much. Loss of sex drive, sure - but that already has a name, it's an absence of libido. Such people are not asexual though - they are either male or female.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,416 ✭✭✭crusd


    The poster is one step from saying homosexuality is not a thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    When you have to invent other posters' opinions, you don't have a point.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,416 ✭✭✭crusd


    your post related human sexuality exclusively to reproduction so….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭nachouser


    People who don't feel sexually attracted to anyone should be the least offensive demographic on the planet. They will literally die out.

    It's endlessly disappointing to see someone with the wealth and intelligence of Rowling just take an online sh*t on some group for no apparent reason other than... she can?



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Mod:-

    Please keep the posts civil and do not make comments attacking other posters. This thread is not a free for all to attack sexual minorities either.

    If posters cannot abide by these simple rules, bans will be forthcoming and the thread will be closed.

    Post edited by JupiterKid on


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  • Posts: 701 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Certain types in the world of online discourse hate an opposing view so much that spite and vitriol is all they have, rather than the ability to discuss or acknowledge other views.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Yeah but there is no 'asexual' group, so what your accusing her of doing didn't happen, because it can't happen.

    She's mocking something that doesn't exist, which means you are getting off on chastising her for criticizing something that doesn't exist, which is hilarious.

    There is no such thing as 'asexual experts' who are in a position to make everyone 'aware' that 'asexuality' exist. It's all made up nonsense.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,707 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    No.

    Asexuality is being promoted as a thing these last few years becasue puberty blockers and transition hormone treatment screw with peoples natural sex drive, and to explain away these negative side effects asexuality has been invented as an identity to hide the truth.

    Asexuality is not a thing, some just have a low sex drive, in some cases man made as said.

    There is no 'asexuality group'. Such a notion is total nonsense.

    JK Rowling is utterly right to mock this nonsense. Everyone should do it.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's not that people "want" to be labelled. They want to be able to put a name to their own feelings about themselves when they are confusing to them.

    I had a family member who was asexual. He truly struggled to try and understand why he simply did not feel sexual attraction to anyone, he even tried to force himself to feel it, and thought there was something wrong with him. After several failed attempts at relationships, it came as a great relief to him to find that his lack of sexual attraction was a real thing, and it wasn't just him. He was a much happier person in himself after that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone


    Some people like brunettes, some like blondes, some like big tits, some like a combination of the above. Some are not turned on by anything.
    Should we have parades for every group and combinations of groups? Except for those that don’t like parades of course.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Are you serious? Of course asexual people exist! It's nothing to do with puberty blockers or hormone treatment. Some people don't have sexual desire, do you seriously not believe these people exist??



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl




  • Posts: 701 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No it's a thing. It has been recognised for much longer. I've read that it can be a trait of people with autism. It seems perhaps a neurological state of being. It's not simply reduced libido, it's absence of being sexual. But it's now being co-opted for absurdity - like "asexuality is on a spectrum", which is gibberish as you are either asexual or you aren't; "asexuality is a sexuality" - wha?! I mean this young woman - dressing extremely sexily, but making her persona all about being an asexual. So attention seeking.

    https://x.com/theyasminbenoit/status/1543520799956541440?t=rci8a-NYym_AzcbldDLiLQ&s=19

    I'd say being asexual is difficult, because it must feel isolating, but I think because there is such a longing to be labelled that people who aren't asexual will identify as asexual. And it is weird to see it be part of LGB pride - or people carrying flags and banners for acceptance... when who doesn't accept them? Their lifestyle might cause bewilderment, misunderstanding... but they're not getting assaulted for it, they haven't had to fight decades for equality because of it.

    As ever, there's misrepresentation - posts saying people have a problem with asexual people. Nobody does. It's stuff like the above is what they're talking about.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭George White


    As An autistic person who is asexual, yeah, it can be lonely. I am almost fearful of sex, and that was before my sexual assault, last year, by a mad woman on the 145 bus on New Year's Eve 2023



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭George White


    If You want to speak to an asexual, I am here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Asexual awareness day, what a ridiculous concept, based around an idea about people who have decided not to indulge in a bit of nookie. I mean you could make up an awareness day for people who abstain from any practice, sexual or otherwise.

    (Not talking about assault like the autistic poster above, fearful of sex), just the concept of having an awareness day for those who have decided on a lifestyle not to indulge.



  • Posts: 701 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I remember thinking I was asexual because I wasn't boy mad like my friends. I get how you'd feel like there's something wrong with you. I'd have been considered a late bloomer because I didn't have an interest in lads until I was 17 (which of course is very young but when your peers have been boy-mad since nine or ten, this is a big deal to a teenager).

    But that's just how it is - people's preferences vary, nothing is wrong. And there seems to be this absolutely insatiable need to label. Demisexual is only having sex with people you really fancy/like... as in, the run of the mill, standard, average way of being? It's just silly at times.



  • Posts: 701 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No it doesn't mean people who choose to be celibate - it's people with an absence of sexuality/sexual attraction/desire. It's a legit thing and I see why those with it would like having a community in which they can relate to each other, but I don't get how it's part of LGB or T or why people equate it to orientations that got people killed or assaulted in the recent past.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Asexuality is an orientation, not a lifestyle.

    The ignorance continues - hence the need for awareness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Interesting, however I've just read #226 which puts a totally different complexion on things!

    Seeing as I only heard of asexual for the first time today (in this thread) I'll reserve judgement on my opinion as to what the truth really is.

    Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭nachouser


    The usual heteronormative gang are assembled. Yawn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭CardF


    Long as I dont have to constantly hear about it then have at it. Same as with international donut day or whatever. If its something I can click off and never know about again then peace, if it follows me around like a harvey norman ad I will rightly rant against it.

    I wouldnt go so far as to tweet about it, yet. But Rowling is adjacent to such issues so has more reasons to.

    Ive long followed a middling profile comedian who is in a relationship with a trans, and he has been known to attest in no uncertain terms to the wanton annoyingness and preachiness of sexual identity communities/movements. From what I see he loves his partner very much yet still wont hold back on sexual identity communities, so I dont think anyone is alone in quietly wishing that some of these flag movements would just shut up about it.

    Bailey had a “borderline personality” based on “narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity with an intolerance to frustration and a great need for recognition”.

    Psychiatrist Jean Michel Masson and psychologist Katy Lorenzo-Regreny.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Please educate yourself then, before making statements about issues you now admit to complete ignorance of before this thread.

    And for your own sake, do your research outside of Boards.ie.

    Thanks.



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