Are asexuals 'fake oppressed'? Mod Note in Post #221

Yvonne007 · 08-04-2025 11:02AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337104#Comment_123337104

I think you may be misrepresenting the word "hateful". Most of her views are based on facts and reality. Can you really be hateful if you are telling the truth?

I do understand that it does offend people who like to think differently, but she is entitled to her view, just as the people who think differently are entitled to espouse theirs.

Realistically, your assertion that she is her opinion is hateful for simply putting forward her point of view, is ironically quite bigoted.

08-04-2025 11:02AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337100#Comment_123337100

Better for you maybe. But it's not all about you.

As I explained earlier, there are people who find great comfort in finally finding an explanation for how they feel about themselves.

Call it a "label" if you will. I guess that means homosexual and heterosexual are "labels" too.

However, to be quite frank, I'm not buying the story you're selling here.

It feels disingenuous to me, so please don't PM me again.

George White · 08-04-2025 11:03AM

I'm autistic so I understand my own opinion is entirely subjective.

Mellor · 08-04-2025 11:16AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123336991#Comment_123336991

They do you think anyone being open about themselves cares one iota what you think?

You keep saying you are bored by the attention seeking. Cool. Why should anyone care that you’re bored? Why are you relevant to anyone else?

Boggles · 08-04-2025 11:17AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337143#Comment_123337143

I think you may be misrepresenting the word "hateful". Most of her views are based on facts and reality

Her views are based on her own self defined narrow subset.

She choses to be a bullying asshóle for reasons already explained.

but she is entitled to her view

Never said she wasn't.

Yvonne007 · 08-04-2025 11:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337182#Comment_123337182

Yes I do.

I think people who need to shout their sexuality or lack thereof from the rooftops care a lot. That's why they do it.

It's a discussion forum. That's why I add to the conversation. I don't particularly mind if you don't care. But I am as entitled to put forward my perspective as you are.

I'm not relevant to you Mellor. I'm ok with that.

But again, slightly ironic that you took the time to respond to me to tell me how irrelevant I am.

Just be honest and say that you (somehow) disagree with my point and you don't like it.

Yvonne007 · 08-04-2025 11:22AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337187#Comment_123337187

I disagree

Mellor · 08-04-2025 12:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337197#Comment_123337197

Why is it ironic that I responded to you? It's a discussion forum. You quoted me, I responded. That how discussion works. I agreed you are entitled to your opinion, but if you are going to put it out there. I can point out where it falls apart.

Thinking that people should not be open about sexuality because you don't care is bizarre. You don't care what other think, but you expect others to care what you think lol.
To be clear, I'm not commenting because I don't like that opinion, I'm commenting because it's hilariously illogical (again, discussion)
I've no idea why you think your interest is relevant to anyone else.

I think people who need to shout their sexuality or lack thereof from the rooftops care a lot. That's why they do it.

I think that's very naïve. People are open about all aspects of themselves. Their relationships, their interests, their sports team, etc. If somebody walks by in a Man City jersey, do you think that's for your benefit too?

Saying your interest is irrelevant is not a put down. It's just a fact. Why would they care?

Mellor · 08-04-2025 12:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123336129#Comment_123336129

Still curious about your platonic dates? As an asexual person, when looking for a dating partner. Do you bias any particular gender?

Yvonne007 · 08-04-2025 12:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337348#Comment_123337348

If people had a "Manchester City fan day of awareness" I would, again, say that they are looking for attention for a facet of their life that is not important to anyone else.

I think it is absolutely ridiculous to have a day to bring awareness of something that quite frankly, nobody apart from those who are already aware of it, cares about.

It is attention seeking for the sake of it.

08-04-2025 12:13PM

What bullying has Rowling done and what terrible things has she said?

Saying she disagrees with absurdities like "woman is a gender and therefore you can just become a woman" is not hateful. It's not bullying. Does she get snarky because of the disgusting filth thrown at her which you'd find in the grimmest incel corners? Of course she does - as would anyone. It's fashionable to be a cu*t to middle aged women if they don't have the right opinions. That kArEn shoite. And it's especially nauseating coming from "liberals" and "feminists" - happy to behave like misogynistic scum like they did with Roisin Murphy who merely said teenagers shouldn't be given puberty blockers - which they shouldn't. It's plain who the bullies are.

Rowling used to get stick for being too liberal. She wouldn't give a sh-t if someone was gender non conforming. She just disagrees with male people in women's prisons and sports. And while people will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to pretend this is bigotry, they know it's not and they know she's right.

eightieschewbaccy · 08-04-2025 12:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337360#Comment_123337360

It's pretty telling which posters seem to be pretty annoyed by a day that has absolutely no impact on them. You'll probably be back to complain about pride as well.

Yvonne007 · 08-04-2025 12:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337377#Comment_123337377

Again, I am not annoyed. I just think it is attention seeking.

But sure, I guess if you want to label people who think it's silly as a bigot, it will shut them up.

Tried and tested method of silencing any opposing view.

I'm beyond caring what label you want to throw my way for having an honest opinion.

George White · 08-04-2025 12:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337357#Comment_123337357

I like girls, but I think I'm just attracted to feminine people.

Though I do admit I find a lot of other gnc/non-binary people, some of them I find utterly ridiculous.

eightieschewbaccy · 08-04-2025 12:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337395#Comment_123337395

I didn't call you a bigot though... You are sounding pretty annoyed when you're inventing statements that didn't happen and claiming you're being silenced.

Yvonne007 · 08-04-2025 12:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337404#Comment_123337404

Nope. I didn't say I was being silenced. I said that hinting or insinuating that if you have a different opinion will make some people afraid to speak freely for fear of being called some sort of "phobe" or "bigot". Plus I'm really not annoyed.

And be honest, you heavily implied that I was a bigot.

I don't mind though, I'm immune to those sort of accusations. I'm too long in the tooth to be worried about silly labels for having a rational opinion.

eightieschewbaccy · 08-04-2025 12:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337429#Comment_123337429

Nope, I didn't....

Yvonne007 · 08-04-2025 12:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337438#Comment_123337438

We will agree to differ.

The posts speak for themselves and although I am sure you will have certain people defending your stance, most rational people will see the reality.

Back on topic though, Asexual people aren't fake oppressed. They aren't even pretend oppressed or really oppressed. They are just people who aren't fond of a fumble. No need to bring awareness to it.

Have a great day.

AndrewJRenko · 08-04-2025 12:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337395#Comment_123337395

The huge irony, of course, is that the original Rowling post was a literal attempt to silence people, an attempt to undermine a very simple, inoffensive awareness campaign and event.

And how any criticism of Rowling's knee jerk reaction is countered with 'Oh you can't be silencing Rowling' (as she attempts to silence anyone who doesn't subscribe to her world view).

Yvonne007 · 08-04-2025 12:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337460#Comment_123337460

"HEY EVERYONE!!! I'M NOT REALLY INTO SEX!!!! NOTICE ME!!!!"

yep. definitely needs a day of recognition.

Just behind the "I'm not a fan of onions day" and "Scampi Fries give me heartburn awareness day".

08-04-2025 12:42PM

Did it ever occur to some here, that a big part of the purpose of awareness days is not for their benefit, and is not meant to gain their attention? But to help others who may be struggling with themselves. The aim is to reach out to other asexual people.

Notice this is at the end of the poster.

There is an astounding level of arrogance when someone assumes something that has no impact on them, must be about gaining their attention.

There is a perfect example, on this very thread, of someone who admits they never heard of asexuality until this thread. Clearly completely ignorant of it, and what it means. Presumed it is a choice, and not an orientation (where have we heard that before?)

However, someone else who is struggling with questions about themselves, may also read this thread, or may have heard about the awareness day somewhere else goes and looks into it a bit more - and may find some the answers they have been seeking to questions they have about themselves.

So if it doesn't affect you, move along. No one wants to hear your noise.

Yvonne007 · 08-04-2025 12:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337483#Comment_123337483

Unfortunately, for you, my "noise" will be heard.

I'm aware it's not about me, but to equate a lack of sexual attraction to the issues that faced homosexual people is laughable.

But yeah, great. Let's have days for all sorts of orientation. "I'm only attracted to tall men day of recognition", "Blonde appreciation week"

as the kids say, SMH

AndrewJRenko · 08-04-2025 12:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337472#Comment_123337472

If I put Rowling's tweet into ALLCAPS, will the penny drop for you?

eightieschewbaccy · 08-04-2025 12:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337483#Comment_123337483

Yep I said as much earlier, it's a far tougher world if you feel completely alone in something. Eg for myself autism related events matter to me less in terms of awareness and to know I'm not alone in terms of the kinds of challenges I've faced. Asexuality in its own right has challenges I imagine when 99% of the world isn't and that would be a far lonelier world if you view it as just you. Seems to be just a complete lack of compassion from certain posters tbh.

08-04-2025 01:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337460#Comment_123337460

a literal attempt to silence people

"Literal" has become yet another of those words that has (literally!) lost all meaning lately. According to the good old online dictionary, the (literal!) meaning is: taking words in their usual or most basic sense without metaphor or exaggeration, whereas it is now often used to mean taking someone's words completely out of context to make an imaginary or exaggerated point.

Mellor · 08-04-2025 01:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123337360#Comment_123337360

And you'd be free to say that that are just are looking for attention. You are entitled to not care. But that means nobody else has to care that you don't care. That's how it works right?

I'm sure bored housewives everywhere didn't care for that . And I'm sure Man City fans give them zero consideration every time they hold a parade to celebrate Man City.

I think it is absolutely ridiculous to have a day to bring awareness of something that quite frankly, nobody apart from those who are already aware of it, cares about.

Ridiculous? I thought you didn't care?

Today is International Romani Day. It is also International Baby Massage day. I do not care about either topic. (Baby massage day…what??). But because I don't care, I got on with my day. I didn't give either a second thought, and had to look up what it was. And zero threads on here about either because because people genuinely don't care.

This thread is now into it's third day. You've made dozens and dozens of posts. That's a lot of attention for something you don't care about. I wonder if you are as active in the Man City thread?