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VW ID.3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Zurbaran


    It was a must add for me and supposed to be a fair bit better than the tesla version I use daily.

    Doubt i will use the parking side of things bar trying them out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭sk8board


    @MarkN how come VW haven’t stumped up an ID3 GTX for Irish review?
    id have thought they can smell the decent sales numbers from a mile away and it might well be their best value/range/spec EV in the Irish market to date? :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭Soarer


    If you're doing decent mileage I guess it'd be important.

    If you're pottering around doing a max of 30km per day (outside of rare trips), it's probably not worth it.

    That's my reasoning anyway.

    Pity you can't add the 360 degree for like €200 or something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,326 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    I considered Travel Assist on my GTX and I have the equivalent on our other car but I decided it wasnt important enough to warrant the money. Even on the recent long journey I did (Cork-Dublin-Cork) it can be useful at times but not really that important.

    I like to make progress and I find if I'm letting the car do everything I just end up stuck behind slower moving traffic so then I have to disengage the automation and re-engage it again and then keep repeating that. It becomes a chore as there is always another truck just up the road.

    So, I just engage ACC and then do the lane following/swaps myself. Each to their own. I just didnt think the ~€2k was good value for money… for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Zurbaran


    That's fair enough. If I still lived in Dublin I probably wouldn't bother with it. The light advantage over the Born wouldnt be nearly as important to me either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Zurbaran


    Teardown of the motor for anyone interested. The seem very impressed.

    https://youtu.be/qTilowhsX_w?si=EIh5VeCKSDCiD4qF



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Sam the Sham


    The newest iteration of Travel Assist has Lane Change Assist and does overtaking manoeuvres when you indicate. It only works on motorways but seems like it resolves some of the problem you had.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭silver_sky


    My 2021 ID.3 Tech will do the lane changes. It's quite handy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,326 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Maybe so. I still don’t think I’d pay the money for it though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,514 ✭✭✭fafy


    Thanks for sharing, all very interesting stuff one wouldn’t know about



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭VWPAT


    monroe live. teardown of AP550 motor. Not a particular vw fan. He is really impressed with this piece of german engineering. Rivian is his no1 and ap550 second.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭sk8board


    exactly what I was thinking - it’s a bit like buying a 2.0L diesel like a 320d years ago and not knowing that a specific model or year got a much better/efficient/more reliable engine.

    In the same vein, I wonder will people in the future secondhand market know their ‘engine codes’



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Sam the Sham


    Got my GTX Performance Plus today. Really a big improvement on the 2022 Pro model I traded in. A few observations:

    • The infotainment and vehicle configuration software is much much better than software 3.2 that I was using on the old car. Very responsive albeit more complicated. I imagine six months down the line I'll still be finding little adjustments I didn't know I could make.

    • The HUD is useful. I had heard that it was now enabled to give the augmented reality prompts when using Google Maps or Apple Maps. Turns out that that's OS-dependent. If using Apple CarPlay, only Apple Maps will give the AR prompts. If on Android Auto, only Google Maps (I assume). Which is a small downer as I still find Apple Maps to be noticeably inferior to Google Maps. Waze also doesn't do them at least not on an iPhone.

    • I find that the extra screen real estate isn't necessarily used wisely in CarPlay: it just makes all the interface elements bigger. Still 2 rows of icons when if things were zoomed out a bit, there'd be room for 3. I hear that's coming in iOS 18.4, but I also hope it adjusts the size of the interface for apps also.

    • The stereo is an improvement over the 4-speaker one in the old car, but it's not like it's streets ahead. The subwoofer adds something but it isn't going to be delivering block rocking beats (not that I expected that). It definitely plays louder without distortion than the old one did.

    • Travel Assist is great. I haven't yet figured out how the lane changes work with the indicator and when I tried to do one, there was no AR animation in the HUD. I think I need to read the manual. But I could see it really making a difference on long drives (we go Dublin to West Cork and Dublin to Clare quite a bit).

    • The acceleration is noticeably stronger than on the old car, but I don't believe there'd be a noticeable difference between the 240kW motor on this car and the 210kW on the non-Peformance GTX. It's very quick (quicker than any other car I've owned) but the 2022 Pro was also quite quick by my lights. Top speed is irrelevant: I'm never driving even more than 10kph over the motorway speed limit.

    • Complaints about road noise (from Battery Life on YouTube notably) seem to me were either overblown or due to the config of BL's car (snow tyres perhaps). This car is quieter than my Pro Model in every way: the motor is quieter, the interior is quieter (insulated glass) and the tyres (Turanzas) are super quiet.

    • Self-parking was super easy. I haven't yet set it up with the remote control though. I have tried remote locking/unlocking from my phone though. Works well.

    • The ergoactiv seats are very comfortable. Took me a while to find the lumbar adjustment, but that alone makes them much more comfortable than the ones in my previous car.

    • Sports mode has an artificial external noise (like on a Taycan but more subdued). No idea how loud it is outside the car. I turned it off in Individual mode.

    • IDA (the new AI assistant) seems like it might actually be useful.

    I'm really going to enjoy driving this car. It's just much more refined and clever than the last one. Annoying little weird things in the old one (like it would constantly reset the desired charge to 100% every time I parked at home) are gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Zurbaran


    Dissapointing to hear the upgraded audio isn't that good.

    on the travel assist, did you option the iq drive? If so I'd be going back to the dealer. I think you can tell since it will have more cameras and a different button on the steering wheel, left side.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Very similar here. I done Dub-Gal-Dub this week and as good as the AP is on the current cars, I find myself just driving rather than using these systems, even the auto lane changes. It’s just slicker doing it yourself IMO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Sam the Sham


    I'm not in any doubt that the car has Travel Assist. It does.

    I've been playing with the audio settings and have got it to sound a lot better to my ears. First thing is to boost the subwoofer in the equalizer. Also, setting the sound mode to Surround gives more of an effect of not simply listening to the speakers in front. It's definitely significantly better than stock. YMMV.

    My feeling about the car is that it's a steal at the price it's being sold for by VW Ireland. If it were being sold for €10,000 more, as it is in some EU countries, I'd probably still think it was worth it (though more than I'd be prepared to pay). At the UK price of £46,300 (€55,400), I'd think it was a bit of a ripoff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    It’s a pity VW Ireland don’t offer the same value proposition with the GTX in the rest of the ID range like the ID4, ID7 and Buzz. I’m guessing VRT distorts the pricing at that end of the market.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Sam the Sham


    I think I figured out the Lane Change thing. It turns out it only works on motorways and the M50 isn’t considered a motorway (at least not in the 100kph sections). Was on the M4 today and it worked a treat.

    [Later edit:] Well it worked well sometimes but seems kind of tempermental. I can't figure out the conditions in which it will work. Sometimes the automatic lane change arrow is illuminated and I give the signal and nothing happens except the lane change arrow turns off.

    Also: can one of you who have Travel Assist (well: Side Assist specifically) tell me if the yellow light on the passenger side mirror lights up for you and in what circumstances? I just drove from Mullingar to Dublin and while the driver's side warning light performed reliably, warning when it was unsafe to move into the overtaking lane, the passenger's side light didn't light once even when I was overtaking cars to my left. I know the light itself works because it illuminates when I switch Side Assist on and off. I'd really rather not bring the car in for a service, but I'm concerned that maybe the left Side Assist sensors aren't functioning.

    Post edited by Sam the Sham on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Have a few little foibles creep in over the last few weeks.

    First is two warnings. "Please clean front sensors" and "Parking manoeuvre brake not available". Sensors aren't dirty, so they've obviously thrown a wobbly and the self parking brake can't work without them. Need to bring her to the dealer to sort under warranty.

    The ID light doesn't always come on when charging. Not a big deal, but used to always work.

    The options for internet connectivity (VTX and location data or something) randomly turn off.

    Maybe she needs a reset or a reprogram. The sensors definitely need sorting though.

    Will ask them what it'd cost to trade up to the GTX while there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭kris_2021


    Where i can test drive gtx performance?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭handpref


    Get ready for this - they may tell you the sensor was damaged by a ‘stone chip’, there is a vw service bulletin somewhere saying not to give warranty on the parking sensors.
    I left mine in under warranty and they billed me for €86 for diagnosing the faulty sensor (which already showed on the parking display as faulty) and €360 to replace it- think I got the sensor oem for €40 and popped it off myself, no tools needed, local garage could also do it.
    I refused to pay the diagnostic fee for a car that was under vw warranty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Zurbaran


    Never had a sensor go in a car. Actually I lie, tesla turned them all off in an update.

    ID go mentmental at them if they tried to charge for it under warranty. Also if it was a stone that hit it hard enough to brake the sensor there'd have to be paint chipped off it you'd think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Zurbaran




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    They have one for test drive in Wicklow VW.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Ev fan


    Interesting situation on SOH of an ID3. Currently on DD- private sale of 2020 UK registered car. Low mileage and is claiming 98% SOH with screen scan included. 5 Yr old car??????? - what do ye think?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,326 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Mine was at about 93% at 4.5yrs old with 100k km's on it.

    98% seems a bit too good but you'd only be talking about a few percent either way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭Mr Q


    When I sold mine it was at 92.5% after close to 100k and 4 years old.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Dropped the car in this morning for the sensor. Surprise surprise they said it was damaged by a stone chip and will cost €360 to repair! Some coincidence.
    I’ve asked them to send on pictorial evidence of the damage, so we’ll see what I get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Ev fan


    I'm scratching my head on this one. The general theory consensus is that the biggest degradation happens in Yr 1 and is quoted at being upwards of 5%. Thereafter degradation is expected to be minimal at perhaps 1% per year. Therefore you would expect a 5 Yr. old car to be hovering around 90% on average. If the 98% figure is accurate it suggests at least that time based degradation is not a significant factor- also possibly that this is a statistical outlier on the LHS of the degradation population curve. I'd like to see an external test done by Aviloo or similar to confirm (or otherwise) the scan reading provided.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Realistically, this car is only at 98% if you are content to ignore science.

    As suggested, an external test is needed.

    Similarly, I believe Tesla now list the SoH onscreen, and all I can think is why on earth you’d trust a manufacturer to be fully truthful about this of all things.



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