Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

Meh, the thin work-around being mooted is that the 12th only refers to eligibility as defined by earlier amendments, the 12th cannot by definition have been intended to include eligibility as later re-defined by the 22nd amendment. And the 22nd only deals with being elected as president, absolutely no reference to VP.

It's Lionel Hutz level nonsense, and should be laughed at by any US Supreme Court. But the current supreme court, who knows.

In years to come when we all look back at the timeline of Biden years 2021 to 2025: we may very well come to remember those years as the years before Trump came along and caused the great economic crash. Let's face it all the various countries Trump is putting tariffs on. We dont know whether it will cause an economic crash on same level as 2008. But if it does the Biden years will be remembered as the good years .

Lads, being America, he's likely to be shot again, so he may not make it to 2028.

There's a hell of a lot of people in the 346m not eligible to vote, don't forget that. Most of these magazines heads have kids u18 who are as indoctrinated as they are. The 70m figure is just false optimism. There's at least another 20 or 30m who can't vote who would swing their direction too.

It may not be politically correct to say this but out of those 70 odd million there is a percentage that voted for Trump rather than see a woman president.

America is not that progressive a country. If the democrats had put forward a strong male candidate like Obama I believe they would have won over a lot of the undecideds who eventually went with Trump.

Harris, like Hilary Clinton, had no charisma. She was not strong delivering the democratic message and appeared to have fallen in to a presidential race only because they made Biden step down.

A conversation should have been had with Biden a lot earlier by the democratic party leadership thanking him for his service but step aside a younger, energetic candidate for the next election.

On reciprocal tariffs. The EU puts 10% on US cars, the US puts 2.5% on EU cars. Does reciprocal tariffs mean the US is going to put 10% on EU cars?

What tariffs does the EU have on US pharmaceutical products? 25% as that is what Trump is threatening?

Harris didn't lose because she is a woman in my opinion. She lost because she was a poorly chosen candidate for all sorts of reasons - not very inspiring, generally uncharismatic and, critically, tied by an umbilical cord to the Biden administration policies. Her message could not be anything other than "more of the same".

I have no difficulty believing that if Michelle Obama had been the nominee she would have won comfortably.

The blame needs to be put where it primarily is; the incompetence of the Democratic party in the run up to the election.

I've seen comments like this for years and I still fail to understand how people can view Trump as charasmatic.

Even if he had a morsel of charisma, how could that lead people to ignore his long list of painfully negative qualities.

That old saying about the law of unintended consequences comes to mind sending Japan and South Korea into Chinas arms. If China : South Korea and Japan forge ever closer trading and economic ties in the longer term as a result of trump's tariffs. Here is another unintentional consequence that might concur is the defence of Taiwan if China decides in the next few years that they feel its the right timing to make a move on Taiwan. If Trump decides to intervene and help Taiwan fend off an invasion. He may very well be doing it alone: if both South Korea and Japan have deepened trading and economic ties with China over a longer period of time wouldn't it also make it less likely they would help Trump defend Taiwan ?

Exactly.