Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

briany · 25-03-2025 05:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123296734#Comment_123296734

Public revolt is pretty much how the founding fathers of the US foresaw the overthrowing of a government that goes rogue and become tyrannical. It's how the US became an independent country and arguably the whole point of the 2nd amendment of the US constitution.

If opponents of Trump are hoping for orderly procedure to boot him out, they're onto a real loser. Trump's administration is currently busy disabling or nullifying all of the usual safeguards, as well as just ignoring the old norms of US democracy where those norms don't suit their agenda.

Might be time for US democrats to start stockpiling guns.

Oscar_Madison · 25-03-2025 05:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123296931#Comment_123296931

In fairness I think most people with cop on stopped laughing at these “clowns” a good while ago - as the saying goes, it would be funny if it weren’t so serious .

Frank Bullitt · 25-03-2025 05:51PM

Watching some of the questioning at the hearing today, Tulsi is way in over her head, but it is impressive that she has become the first KGB officer to make it this far.

Patrick2010 · 25-03-2025 06:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297025#Comment_123297025

Absolutely, she wouldn’t even confirm she was the TG on the chat even though the CIA director confirmed she was.

At this stage it’s obvious Russia is completely controlling the GOP, the US this afternoon looking to restart Russian exports despite sanctions

Qaanaaq · 25-03-2025 06:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123296945#Comment_123296945

I would love to see the US people rise up and revolt against this, but the ordinary folk who oppose Trump do not really have the propensity for this kind of action.

They still naively believe that the American checks and balances will still prevail.

Trump supporters on the other hand would revolt on command.

The people who oppose Trump are in shock and don’t know what to do.

Tony EH · 25-03-2025 06:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297123#Comment_123297123

I think most people are just going to put the head down and wait out the four years until it's time to put responsible adults back in the White House.

I would hope by the time that comes around all the ejits who voted for Trump just to see what would happen would have learnt their lesson.

J Mysterio · 25-03-2025 06:25PM

It is somewhat ironic that the majority of the 2nd amendment gun nuts lean Republican, as the tyranny they always say the need to prepare for is actually now here and actually, they support this particular flavour of tyranny.

Baba Yaga · 25-03-2025 06:27PM

at this stage its like homer simpson is the president…no…wait…his dad…abe simpson!

tis a wee bit of a security breach all right!!

aloyisious · 25-03-2025 06:29PM

Questioning by Senator King of Tulsi Gabbard [DNI]: She said that she could attest that there was nothing classified in the text messages sent between the people in the conversation. After more questions, she told him he should ask the National Security Council. He reminded her that she was Director of National Intelligence and asked her "please release the contents of the text messages" sic: as she said they were not classified.

eightieschewbaccy · 25-03-2025 06:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297203#Comment_123297203

She also wouldn't clarify if she received the messages on her personal device.

Frank Bullitt · 25-03-2025 06:36PM

Wasn’t there a few posters who were celebrating the appointment of Hegseth and Tulsi? Where are they now?

Manic Moran · 25-03-2025 06:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123296698#Comment_123296698

No, it's not a 'wee snafu', but it's not a 'significant snafu' either. It's not likely to result in any seismic changes in how things are going to be done except maybe they'll be a little more careful about routing. I don't know why the CIA director felt the need to use the woman's real name regardless of the nature of the communications medium, and I agree, at first blush that was another self-inflicted wound. But the nature of the medium was still supposedly a point-to-point encrypted exchange between government devices so exchanging Confidential information on it shouldn't have been an issue. I do not expect this to stop. Also interesting is equipment like DMCC-S, a mobile 'phone (I believe a Samsung Galaxy, however they managed that) authorised to handle both Secret and non-secure material. I'm not important enough to have one, I have no idea how it works in practice and what the internal firewalls are for apps. I suspect, however, that folks like SecDef or the CIA director are.

Again, I expect that there will be hearings and investigations, and that we will find out the truth of much of it. But there's me being naive and thinking that the government's processes for such things works.

I agree with your second paragraph. The insults to Goldberg are immature and counter-productive, though that does seem par for the course for a lot of reactions to things that the current administration is making.

eightieschewbaccy · 25-03-2025 06:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297257#Comment_123297257

Government devices is in question, Gabbard wouldn't say if she was using a personal device or a government one. On top of that, they had the messages set to disappear when such communications are required to be kept indefinitely.

briany · 25-03-2025 06:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297184#Comment_123297184

What do you think the likelihood is that there will be free and fair elections in four years to even allow these responsible adults back in? To me, the odds look depressingly low.

US democracy only barely held in 2020 and that was with a chaotic ad-hoc attempt at hanging onto power. This time, MAGA are organised and hell-bent on staffing the US fed with loyalists up and down the card. God knows what he'll try to do with the Federal Elections Commission.

For Forks Sake · 25-03-2025 07:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123296030#Comment_123296030

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Qaanaaq · 25-03-2025 07:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297257#Comment_123297257

How could a journalist be added if it was a secure government platform? Its a massive security breach.

Nothing much will happen though, your right about that.

aloyisious · 25-03-2025 07:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297226#Comment_123297226

Me taking into consideration whom she works for, she probably told the truth that the contents of the messages is not classified.

Trump has said in the past that, as president, he can declassify classified documents so the easy way out for the texters is to show him them and: hey presto, problem solved, they are no/t [longer] classified no matter what the content of the texting is, no SNAFU by his Admin team. He might be pissed off but he'll vent on the media and, within 23 hours it'll all be "fake news". Expect another tariffs announcement or the Greenland visitors to create an issue for him to distract people from "the best of the best" latest screw-up. The very worst they can do is to invite in the Israeli tech people to instruct them on how to use the phones properly.

Cluedo Monopoly · 25-03-2025 07:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123296986#Comment_123296986

It's only as serious as the next idiotic move which should be along in 24 hours. People are now addicted to the "doom" and calamity of it all too and Trumps plays to that 24 news cycle of chaos.

EltonJohn69 · 25-03-2025 08:11PM

shouldn’t Trump be involved in the conversation about bombing another country ? Shouldn’t it be his final decision ? Apparently he knew nothing about the whole thing……

dasdog · 25-03-2025 08:46PM

We live in a surreal world where such a security breach gets dismissed as "there was no classified information". Utter gobshyte amateurs Trump has surrounded himself with.

MisterAnarchy · 25-03-2025 08:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297094#Comment_123297094

Its obvious that Russia is completely controlling the GOP ?

No it is not obvious and its not true.

People would want to take a look closer to home to see a circus, the antics in the Dail today make the GOP look like professionals.

Oscar_Madison · 25-03-2025 08:50PM

Given trumps response this evening blaming the technology and nothing happening Waltz, this was clearly a set up designed to just blast Europe - pathetic

Frank Bullitt · 25-03-2025 09:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297670#Comment_123297670

That is the worst red herring I have seen from you yet.

Cluedo Monopoly · 25-03-2025 09:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297675#Comment_123297675

And kill over 50 people.

astrofool · 25-03-2025 09:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297670#Comment_123297670

This is a bit bizarre whataboutery.

You did watch the congress sh1t show that lead to Johnson being elected? Politicians arguing about speaking rights is pretty much the height of decorum vs. the GOP right now.

Tulsi has been brought down to dunce cap level.

thatsdaft · 25-03-2025 09:32PM

https://apnews.com/article/consumer-confidence-economy-inflation-bd6ece8784efff205e2ab922bcb86958

eggcelent

Who would have thought that an administration that is determined (and promised!) to wreck the economy is wrecking the economy

dasdog · 25-03-2025 09:33PM

We live in a surreal world where such a security breach gets dismissed as "there was no classified information". Utter gobshyte amateurs Trump has surrounded himself with in very important roles and they are loyal but completely unqualified.

eightieschewbaccy · 25-03-2025 09:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297670#Comment_123297670

The antics in the dail are pretty tame in contrast to Trump choosing to crash the economy and a billionaire acting as an unelected president.... You must be very out of the loop if you believe what you're saying.

kyote00 · 25-03-2025 09:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123297903#Comment_123297903

I was wondering last week what media frenzy would deflect from the fact the putin has basically told Trump to **** off, Isreal is bombing the **** out of Gaza again…economy is tanking…

Trump asleep at the wheel or on the golf course

Leroy42 · 25-03-2025 09:50PM

Exactly. Trump has had been made foolish and weak by Putin.

All those saying that Biden was terrible for not standing up to Israel, well Trump has laid down to have his tummy tickled.

And now and massive security breach with his supporters on here can only bring themselves to say it was unfortunate or probably not that important.

Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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