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New bus routes in Galway

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭minimary


    I defer to your superior knowledge as I don't know much about planning but ABP have it listed in their weekly lists under "decided cases" and when I googled what objections withdrawn mean this came up "the situation is very different in relation to the withdrawl of an appeal. An appeal can be withdrawn by an appellant at any time prior to the determination of the case by An Board Pleanala. Where an appeal is withdrawn (or all the appeals where there is more than one), the original decision of the planning authority takes effect." https://kildareplanner.wordpress.com/2010/01/06/can-an-objection-or-appeal-be-withdrawn/



  • Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah ok so that applies where a planning authority, e.g. Galway City Council, granted/refused permission for something, let's say a house. That gets appealed to ABP and if that appeal is pulled then the original decision by GCC would stand.

    For the cross city link the planning authority in this instance is ABP. GCC/NTA are the ones applying for permission.

    Maybe this application is fully decided, I can't tell from the info on the site. Would be great if it was as they're hoping to start construction before the end of the year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,485 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    ABP approve Bus Connects

    With the creation of bus lanes over the Salmon Weir Bridge, will be closed to regular traffic 7-10am and 1-7pm with access permitted 10am-1pm for deliveries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,095 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    That's a far more sensible approach than banning cars all the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    It is just a CAR restriction NOT a ban, we will still be able to drive within meters from either side of the Corrib to the Salmon Weir Bridge post BUS Gate been installed on the Bridge from the plans that I have seen. One will simply not be able to cross said Bridge from 07h00-19h00.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    That was always the plan wasn't it?

    I also hear a lot of people still complaining about the new bridge without realising it's part of this larger plan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,485 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    The removal by the University of the bridge underpass has caused huge tailbacks on Newcastle Road at rush-hour. You can only imagine the shock motorists will get when this happens



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    What was it being used for that is prevented from happening now? Were people coming in from Moycullen, and going towards the hospital, cutting through the university to bypass the lights at the Quincentenary Bridge?

    It's inconvenienced me a bit because, when travelling west to east in the evening, I was previously able to pick up one of the kids at Kingfisher and then cut through the underpass to get back onto the Quincentenary Bridge. Now I have to go back to the Browne Roundabout or cross the Salmon Weir Bridge instead. But I don't resent that. I think restricting access to the underpass was a positive move.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,485 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Drivers inbound cutting through at Cairnes in morning, flooring the accelerator, then exiting at Kingfisher/Distillery Rd. Same thing outbound in the evening. They might save 2-3 minutes, and avoid two sets of lights (QB & Kingfisher).

    Now drivers cannot do that - it got to a point where the Uni decided to close it. In evening, there are long tailbacks on Newcastle Rd outbound, and from Newcastle Rd to Browne roundabout. These are also bus routes, and all the buses get stuck in it with the knock-on schedule delays



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Any uptick in the no's using the Shuttle Bus in the Campus from the P&R since the N6 underpass was opened up for pedestrians I wonder?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,299 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Note that Newcastle Road runs from Cooke's Corner to the junction at the hospital with University Road.

    Lower Newcastle is the name of the road from the hospital heading outbound, as far as Snipe Avenue.

    Upper Newcastle continues after Snipe avenue, towards Dangan.

    (I am a bit of a nerd)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,485 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Cllr Cheevers mentions Director in the CLIP at 0:07/08 seconds - anybody know what the Director said? Perhaps JR been used as a negotiating tactic by some property owners affected I am guessing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,485 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Bus Connects delayed until 2027 🙄 maybe 🙄

    The NTA is currently working closely with Galway councils to progress key infrastructure required for the redesigned services. Services are expected to commence in 2027, subject to operational readiness and funding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Link for the Press Release?

    Not surprising though - the pace in Galway City Council is very very slow but that is the strategy.

    Do they fear it might work?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,485 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    409 route lengthens. The two new stops at Medtronic and Celestica (terminus).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Cannot believe its taken this long for this to occur. Have they installed proper bus stops with Shelters I wonder? Looking forward to the day when there will be a BUS ONLY Bridge or Tunnel that will connect Parkmore West with Parkmore East to create the 409 Parkmore Bus Connects LOOP



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,135 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    We want to reduce car journeys. Many people live to the West of Galway & their nearest significant shopping centre is the Gateway - with Aldi, Lidl, Dunnes, B&Q etc. It's on the western side of the City but every bus drives past it. So from Spiddal West you have to go into the City & back out to Gateway which makes it pointless. Why don't some service make the short diversion to Gateway ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Just "Basic Poles" - no shelters or REAL-TIME display units.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Good point. If there was ever a service like the City #404 "Oranmore Service" coming from Bearna - it would make sense for the route to go via the Gateway Transport Hub in Rahoon/Clybaun



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,485 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    There was a Barna-Rahoon-Galway 414 service, but it ceased May 2021 due to lack of use pre C19 🤨

    The 424 goes to Eyre Sq, and all retail is a short walk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,135 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    It's the 424 that needs to go to Gateway. Eamon O' Cuiv agreed & suggested it to BE but got nowhere. Lidl & Aldi, in town, are not a short walk & up a steep hill when carrying shopping. Gateway would be very popular, especially with the elderly, as it's a destination. People can browse, shop & eat within one space. It's crazy that the 424 passes so close but turns down Salthill.

    Hopefully Aldi will get PP for Spiddal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,095 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Lidl & Aldi, in town, are not a short walk & up a steep hill when carrying shopping.

    Agreed. Interesting that active travel proponents have such a fit-and-able perspective, when may actual public transport users are a lot less so.

    Lots of county / national bus routes were designed when suburban facilities were very different to what they are today. Buses from the north (Headford Rd) should drop off and pick up at the shopping centre. From the south, at Wellpark/Huntsman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    There are other Supermarkets nearer Eyre Square?

    As somebody who has taken the 424 a fair number of times over the years (going to Casla)- it always struck me in the last number of years that it should NOT be the main service for Spiddal, Furbo & Bearna Inbound or Outbound. Need a separate service at this point to service that section of the Coast Road which has dispersed population all along it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,095 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Only expensive supermarkets!

    Surely a 424 on a higher frequency would be a great thing for both coast road residents and those further afield?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Perhaps - but I think we need a #404 Double decker type service from at least Furbo/Bearna inbound and Outbound for starters - alighting and boarding is far quicker. Have missed the local link 432 bus twice now on the last two occasions because its such a slow service as so much stopping and starting between Salthill and Spiddal, was 20 & 25 minutes late hitting Casla (fold up bike to the rescue; got me as far as Rosmuc)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,135 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    It would but BE have no interest. A 10 or 11am shoppers bus, that calls into Gateway, would be popular. Whenever a new shopping centre opens in the UK the busses provide a shopping service. It needs to be almost door to door to allow for a weekly shop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,095 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    The 424 and the 419 are both operated by 404-style double deckers quite often. Agree there needs to be more frequency from Spiddal inwards to really make a difference in uptake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Yup double decker Coaches which are fine.

    The Clifden route #419 don't have any way the same level of stopping and starting for the first 15km though that one has on the #424 Coast Road and once it passes Oughterard one only has 3 stops then to Clifden for that 50km of the Route leg. Always a more reliable timetable I have found (summer tourist car traffic is probably the main issue with the timetable delays ).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,088 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    There are also a few Tri-Axle Double Deckers shared between 419 & 424. they need more of them. The Route needs the extra capacity.



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