Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

I don't tend to agree that Sanders would have won but in agreement on everything else. The Democrats biggest issue is they're unwilling to have firm messaging at this stage. They're half frightened of being called left wing.

Doge we are going to cut waste and save money .reality

The IRS is expecting to collect 10 per cent less tax this year because of the chaos and cutbacks in the IRS made by doge.

And the stock market has lost trillions in value so 401k pension funds have lost value as most 401k funds invest in the stock market

But at least rich people will have less tax to pay.

If you work as a nurse or at Walmart there's no tax cuts for you .You ll pay the same tax but infrastructure and public services like parks will see staff layoffs

Maga should be called mama

Make America mediocre again

The Republicans have embraced communist Russia but the Democrats are seen as the left party? 🤷‍♂️

https://fortune.com/2025/03/17/foreign-tourism-us-forecast-trump-tariffs-trade-war-russia-ukraine-war/

According to a Feb. 27 report from research firm Tourism Economics, visits are expected to fall 5.1%, down from an earlier view for an 8.8% increase. Spending by foreign tourists is expected to tumble 11%, representing a loss of $18 billion this year.

I suspect the figures will drop even more as the year goes on. Trump is looking at destroying all industries (Auto, farming, tourism etc...)

Thr republicans used very simple language eg we,ll reduce inflation and get control of immigrants and reduce crime .Even if you hate trump he,s good at talking to working class voters and he appeals to racist and conservative voters .

The democrats need a leader like bill Clinton that can talk to voters in a simple type of language .Harris is black and female which is a disadvantage if you want millions of voters to vote for you .She appeals to middle class liberal people .

Trump is going to cause a recession increase inflation and put off tourists from coming to America .Reducing staff at national parks is not going to help tourism

There's absolutely nothing "communist" about Putin's Russia.

Perception is absolutely everything in politics - if the perception is that the democrats are left wing, then they’re left wing- it’s that simple.

The reality means nothing - and compared to MAGA, there’s probably an argument to had that they are , even though they’re more left of centre -MAGA have done a fine job of painting them a certain way - and in some respects the democrats were complicit in their own downfall - they allowed themselves to be defined and dominated by issues whilst important, were marginal to the overall governance of a vast country- they should have seen this coming and they didn’t.

I don’t think they can reverse out of this perception either - there’s a distinct possibility that the only way to “redemption” is that Trump and MAGA go too far- even for the American people. But with the tolerance the American people are displaying so far, it seems to me that they will tolerate a hell of a lot more before they start react, no less respond. The Democrats haven’t had a clue on how to respond to appropriately to Trump and MAGA - Europe is learning quickly but I don’t think the Democrats know how.

Yes, Communism ended and Russia went hyper capitalist under Yeltsin.

Great summary but why do you conclude that the Europeans are learning to deal with Trump. Certainly they are making a few modest incremental moves but the EU leaders couldn't even agree on fundamental issues at last week's meeting. Few indications that the UK, Germany, Poland etc are prepared to challenge Trump imo. And Trump doesn't even deal with Von der Leyen and Kallas.

A fair challenge - in my defence judge -I said they’re “learning”- but that doesn’t mean they’ve perfected that art - I take you’re point, even Europe has a long way to go to achieve a united front, if they even ever get close to that - but I feel there’s at least a concerted effort

Yes, there's been a lamentable dumbing down of American society for decades now. Their media feeds it and the dog and pony show that is their politics perpetuates it. But Trump and his coup are really doubling down on it, with their direct attacks on education.

Those in charge want a dumb population to control. They're easier that way.

Can we as a country and continent start to paddle our own canoe and ignore what is happening 3000 miles away. They voted for that/this. I want to know what our plan is to spark indigenous industry if we lose our mncs due to trump.
Spitting fire about unfairness won’t work.