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Annoying Gym Behaviour - Mk2(?)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,993 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    My biggest take away from that rant was the 10 hrs in 5 days! What on earth are you doing in the gym for 2hrs a day? Other than judging others and eyeing up leggings



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,101 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Didn’t realise I was so out of order wearing tracksuit pants!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Of course, tbh I was getting at the fact that I think the language people use about teenagers in gyms is often really OTT though.

    Groups of kids train together for a variety of reasons… They're hanging out because they're friends, and have the time to train together (I'd love to bring some of my mates to the gym with me, but sure you're managing multiple calendars these days…). Maybe they need a dig out from each other in terms of cobbling up an idea of what they're doing in the gym too.. And let's be honest, they'll still end up just benching and doing arms most of the time anyway.

    Suspect you'd struggle to determine anything remotely anti-social is going on, in terms of most of these kids.

    While I rarely have had a run-in with a genuine arsehole in a gym, thinking back, it's never been with a younger person, always someone 25+.

    Of course you get people doing stupid things, and apparently unaware of etiquette, but that's not the same thing.

    I'd actually rather have groups of teenagers training in a group too, and all cycling between the exercise, on the same piece of equipment, than all the individuals floating around taking up multiple pieces of kit.

    When I meet an oul lad who clearly has a grievance with kids in the gym, I just wonder what specifically is the right thing to say to them… Do you remind them they were young once too? Tell them it's good for the kids to be training, and probably better for the community too? Or, in some cases, does it come down to the oul lad's own irrational fears and insecurities about young people, and their being in the gym, and there's nothing anyone can do for him… "Man shakes fist at clouds" etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    The problem in my gym is that young lads arrive in and aren't inducted properly.

    I saw one group of young lads a couple of years ago using a trap bar, one of them overloaded it and ended up somehow breaking his ankle, his mother arrived to take him to hospital. I thought that would be a wake up call to the gym management but seemingly not.

    Young people using the gym should be a positive thing, but you can't expect them to magically understand how everything in a gym works without instruction and things like etiquette need to be explained as well.

    That's what most complaints people will have about young fellas in gyms and it's easily addressed but gyms aren't bothered once they have your money it would seem.

    I understand your angle here but to be honest people have a right to expect that whoever uses the gym they're paying for and struggling to squeeze into their schedule should be engaging in using the facility in the correct manner and that's down to the management to oversee.

    Glazers Out!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Well, there's people of all ages in the gym making poor use of their time, showing dodgy technique and generally not knowing how to behave at times.

    If anything I'd lay money the acute injury rate is much higher among older trainees.

    Lastly, although presumably many kids avail of a student rate, they're still paying customers too.

    I think they're being scapegoated a bit here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    With respect I think that's a somewhat reductive take.

    You already mentioned "old. Man yells at cloud" earlier and while plenty of people of all ages do things incorrectly in gyms that's not really the point.

    I can only speak about my own experiences, but if I have seen something that's required intervention from staff in my gym it's always someone in the youngest cohort of members involved, be it people injuring themselves, lads deciding to take their tops off to admire themselves in the mirrors on the gym floor, other lads mistreating and damaging equipment, running around the gym messing like little kids in a playground, shouting and roaring and generally being a nuisance.

    All of those issues could be avoided if the gym took the time to walk these lads around when they join and explain how they are expected to behave and how to use and treat the equipment. These things aren't really comparable to someone having bad form.

    They're only kids after all, and if you let them loose in any environment they'll get giddy and act like kids, because that's what they are and kids need guidance.

    The whole "the kids are alright" argument is missing the point, the kids will be alright, but they need guidance, without it they'll likely not be.

    Glazers Out!



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Mod Note: Lads, can we stop the back and forth, it's supposed to be a light hearted thread. Not somewhere to argue.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,374 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Hard to judge tone on the web sometimes Brian, I don't think this was a bad tempered back and forth or anything. I respect nullzeros view as well. Sure it's good to keep the thread going and forum alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Agreed, certainly wasn't ill tempered on either side to my mind.

    All my ire is focused on those pesky kids anyway.

    Glazers Out!



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    normally I’d give out to ye for responding to moderation on thread, but you’re right.

    I’ve just seen this thread, and it’s predecessor, descend into petty bickering in the past too many times.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    Hotel gym/pool. Seen a fella yesterday rummage in the used towel bin and take one into the shower area.As I passed by, I could see him giving his bits a good rub down. Gross. Another bug bear is hearing someone in the next shower cubicle coughing up phlegmand spitting it out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭JayRoc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,403 ✭✭✭antimatterx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Jayzus...

    Didn't expect my rant **shakes fist at cloud ** about my new gym to get quite the reaction it got there but I enjoyed reading some of the follow up.

    I think my timing didn't help - its been a quite a long time since I've been in any gym (new or my old one) with he post work/5pm crowd and there's definitely a more mellow vibe in both places in the mornings. I've been settling in nicely since my laat post (rant) and shock horror- I even seen two blokes carrying around a sweat towel the other day. Hurrah for progress.

    … but my new found optimism for the place was almost diminished only a few short minutes later when I turned around to witness some lad performing chip ups with his top off, naked from the waist up. He wasn't some dude flexing an impressive gym built body either. Think more along the lines of those lads you see walking around your local streets, roads and parks with their tops off every springtime the minute the temperature gauge hits double digits figures and you'll know the sort.

    .. someone went over and had a word with him and he put his long sleeve under armour coat back on for the remainder of his workout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    You sound as bad as wife!!

    The first 15-20 mins is usually light cardio to get the HR up, with some stretching, mobility and activation work. Then about 60-70 mins of resistance training and usually finish with 15-20 mins of medium-hard cardio.

    That's only about 1hr 30 or 1hr 40 mins of actual work in a 2 hours period as there is a lot of time lost cleaning down equipment, getting set up, over and back to the water fountain etc.

    Throw in the time it takes to change in the dressing room before hand, the shower afterwards and the short commute to and from the gym, its typically 2 hours 40 mins for me door-to-door each day.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    what’s wrong with working out with no top on?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭Slideways


    Nothing if itheyre not saggy and she doesn’t mind people staring..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Following lads in and out the dressing room as they take photos must eat into a fair bit of time too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Too busy starring at the glutes only brigade to waste time on those lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Cake Man


    Not anything behaviour related but I joined a new gym recently, in the toilets the cubicle walls and doors are that frosted glass type material. So when you go in there you can clearly see someone just sitting down on the throne emptying their bowels. It's really weird. Could be because it's a 24 hour gym so maybe a quick way of staff being able to check to ensure nobody is camping out in there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭JayRoc


    Oh man, that is too weird.

    I hate even using those mixed men/women jacks you see more and more nowadays, where some poor delicate member of the fairer sex is supposed to listen to a geezer taking a whopper pony a few inches away from her. Nope.



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