Annoying Gym Behaviour - Mk2(?)

Cill94

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122609967#Comment_122609967

I don’t disagree

Black Sheep

If a bench is visibly wet, yeah, I'll definitely spray and wipe it down.

If someone is sweating heavily, I've never found that them having a towel makes a difference. A bench or seat is still going to end up damp enough to make me want to wipe it down.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122620834#Comment_122620834

Then they are carrying their sweaty towel and laying it on all the other machines they uses. Super hygienic

Brian?

yeah, I don’t get the magic ability of a towel to sterilise equipment.

It’s a sweat soaked piece of clothes.

Strumms

young wan this evening , walking on the treadmill with the phone actually held up to her ear yapping… I’ve complained about people waiting on equipment minutes after using it and on their phones…blocking others from using the equipment….but now working out and talking…

Not the biggest deal maybe but the culture amongst the 18-25 year olds now there is an absolute inability to NOT be using the phone…..🥱always this approximate age demographic….it’s got that bad this wan is walking on a treadmill making or taking calls, not on a break. Can’t be much comfort in that…Bluetooth earphones / headphones I’d be not too fussed over even if there is a…. ‘ no phone use, music only ‘ policy that’s posted ‘everywhere’…but…. Why or what is that generation’s obsession with phones to the point they can’t work out for an hour… without making / receiving phone calls…. Bizarre…

el Fenomeno

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122661798#Comment_122661798

I don't see the big deal.

A woman was walking on the treadmill, and talking on the phone while doing so.

So what?

I see the problem if she's doing the same using a bench or another piece of equipment as she'd generally need to stop what she's doing to use the phone, adding delays to anyone who may be waiting to use the equipment. But I don't see the harm if she's using it while getting her walk done.

For some people, walking and talking isnt the uncomfortable or awkward experience you think it is. Quite the opposite. I would say you're in the minority there.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122661798#Comment_122661798

yeah, this sounds like your own personal issue with young people/phones than something that inconvenienced you or anyone. If it was a 10 minute call between sets. Then sure it’s holding people up. But on a treadmill there’s no impact. If they answer or not, it affects nobody.

Brian?

I didn’t think young people made phone calls anymore.

Black Sheep

A lot of people use their time doing zone 2 on treadmills to take/make calls, answer emails etc. It's not that unusual.

Strumms

Well, It’s unusual, certainly in the gym I’m a member of..basically the gym policy forbids it as I’ve explained signs everywhere….” No phone use, music only “ It’s a culture thing. Either everyone is in 100%…

As stated to us… requirements… Wiping down / sanitising equipment post use…Not making/taking calls…Using sweat towels… cleaning up if you spill something..

I took out my phone yesterday, once to change Spotify playlist, otherwise never interacted with it at all. Do what I’m asked to do, nobody on a nearby piece of equipment wants to hear me waffling on it above the din of the music and machines… it’s not so difficult…. 🤷‍♂️ dunno how you can go to the gym for an hour and be of the needy assed mind.. “ bu bu but well if someone rings, I have to / want to answer “ The caller will still be alive when you finish , to talk to you most likely… 🤦🏻‍♂️

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122662674#Comment_122662674

If those are the rules, they should be followed. But I'd consider that to be an unusual rule in general. I know of gym where it's a rule that members have to wear white (it's a jiu jitsu gym). That's the rule, it must be followed. Being the rule does not mean its not unusual.

So how does it work. You're at the gym, the Missus texts you and asks what time are you finished? You don't text back until you leave, as it's not allowed? Would the guy in the next squat rack get annoyed if you shot a quick text between sets? I find that kinda funny and weird tbh.

I get what you mean about overhearing people. But people talk in person too. Is there also a rule about talking? One of the reason I wear headphones is to drown out people in the gym. I did my whole workout today with my earbuds in and didn't even put on music. Just silence. Focused on heavy singles.

mindhorn

That's a bizarre rule to have in place. What's the name of the gym?

Musicrules

Everyone should clean equipment they've used after they're finished with it. It's not that hard.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122664736#Comment_122664736

it’s not a big deal if they don’t either. I do, because I’m a considerate lad and I know it bothers people. But if someone else doesn’t, I move with my day nonplussed. It’s not as if a towel disinfects

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122662674#Comment_122662674

I wouldn’t join any gym that had that many rules.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122664736#Comment_122664736

If somebody leaves a sweaty puddle behind them they should, of course, wipe the bench down. But most people are not dripping in sweat when strength training, compared to say cardio.

Thinking that any surface that somebody touches in a gym is instantly toxic is a bit germophobic imo. If you think people are that dirty, best not to integrate all your touch points too much.

Cill94

Something I've noticed is people not substituting exercises when the gym is busy, and instead choosing to queue for things (particularly cable machines). I've seen a guy queue for a lat pulldown machine for about 40 minutes before. I had done about 3 exercises by the time he got on.

Outside of non-beginners waiting for a barbell, I don't think there is any piece of equipment that is worth queueing 20 minutes to use. Even then, I would personally rather sub dumbbell bench or dips for a barbell bench than be standing around, letting others dictate how long my session is going to take.

I don't know if it's that people think there is something magical about what they're waiting to use, or that they genuinely don't realise they could train the same basic movement/muscles with a free piece of equipment. Maybe someone who queues like this could provide some insight.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122665239#Comment_122665239

Pretty much the only exercise/equipment I'll wait for is the big barbells: bench, squat, deadlift. And only if I'm following specific programming. A standalone workout. I'll get DBs, or a machines etc.

I don't know if it's that people think there is something magical about what they're waiting to use, or that they genuinely don't realise they could train the same basic movement/muscles with a free piece of equipment.

It's almost certainly a case of not knowing how else to train the same movement/muscles.

Musicrules

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122665026#Comment_122665026

In the grand schemes of life it's not a big deal but it's not great to have to be cleaning after smelly bastards. Especially when they're unaware that they're smelly bastards.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122665405#Comment_122665405

I’ll concede that point alright.

Black Sheep

I really think most people queue or don't sub movements when applicable because they just aren't confident in their understanding of how to sub, and what is like for like. I think it's that simple.

They don't understand what muscles are being trained in all movements, and although they might have a general understanding of horizontal push, pull vs vertical etc When it comes to pulling the trigger and picking a substitute a lot of them would rather wait than risk getting it wrong.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122665932#Comment_122665932

Agree. Plus there is an awful lot of people who do know what's being trained, but that re simply invested in the broscience that says a particular variation is more effective at isolation the most lateral tricep head to look good in a white tshirt.

Cill94

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122667538#Comment_122667538

Yeah I would assume it's a blend of both problems. Being convinced by an influencer that there's something radically different about the variation of an exercise they promote, and also just not knowing how to change it for something similar.

I see so much content that says 'you're training x muscle wrong' and then provides a magic bullet solution. I would have to think it's playing a factor in how many exercise options people think they have available to them.

Black Sheep

My favorite are the influencers who say you are "wasting your time" doing X and then six months later, when they've shifted position completely, they're promoting X and have memory holed everything they said before. It's hilarious, if you follow someone doing this for long enough, but also shows you so many of them are just grifters. Just churning out the content, monetising whatever they can, no actual experience base or clients or proven track record in many cases.

Captain_Crash

99% of online PT’s are full of sh*t. They’ll say everything and anything if it gets them a few likes on Instagram from those chicks who post their ass with the caption “trained legs today, so sore”! Like and subscribe and why not sign up to my 6 month challenge, only 479.99 per month!

That’s my input to the annoying gym behaviour. I’m sure it counts since it’s gym related 😂😂

Black Sheep

I would distinguish between PTs and influencers selling programmes.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122670369#Comment_122670369

That's not much to distinguish most of the time. Obviously some influencers will spruik anything including a generic program with their name and a silly price tag on it. Same influencers selling retreats, mindfulness subscriptions, make up etc.

But a huge part of the PT wheelhouse these days is online revenue streams. These are PTs like any other in the gym, gaining clients through content. Some are genuinely good and know what they are talking about. A lot are a few bad financial decisions away from only fans

Black Sheep

There are a lot of influencers and PTs who overlap in terms of their grifting and general uselessness, but I was really only responding to the comment that 99% of online PTs are full of ****. I think it's a bit negative, and what was described was really the worst of behaviour, there are some coaches who are knocking it out of the park, online.

The delivery of PT, group coaching and individual, and the sale of programming and other content, online, has been a gamechanger … Not just for particular coaches and gyms, but for clients too. This is probably the greatest time to be a gym rat in the history of the world. You can be living in Dublin, training in your shed, and you can more or less be following the approach being taken by some of the best in the world, no matter where they're located. I've got Joe DeFranco on my phone, giving me tips on my box jump videos, honestly, 90s me would never believe it.

Cill94

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122669454#Comment_122669454

Athlean X is the grifter king of saying whatever he has to for clicks. No integrity or desire to provide useful information. Couldn't care less if he contradicts everything he's ever said. Has also used been caught out using fake weights in his videos.

Black Sheep

The fake weights thing is mind-blowing. I guess the female equivalent is the extensive photoshopping of images by female influencers. There's an account by a coach in NY that is dedicated to calling these people out, for promoting false standards, he finds all the bent lines and whatnot, visible in the backgrounds.