Kilkenny GAA Thread

I was chatting to a few lads about this after the match today.

Do some of the Kilkenny players have a lack of respect for Lyng and his management team?

Blanchfield seems to do what he wants on the field, especially this year and I am hearing Cody & Mullens attitude at times at training have been questioned.

basically limerick need to whallop kk by 15 points and clare need to whallop tipp by same ish margin

I wonder will limerick even want the league final that bad. Safe in division 1 with 2 games left one of which v wex at the Gaelic Grounds.

and what in the name of God were Blanchfield and Carey thinking of? Really, really worrying. Petulant and selfish behaviour from both, that type of ill discipline ultimately reflects poorly on management

Carey was on a yellow. It clearly wasn't a red, that was a joke decision but he was always going to get a 2nd yellow for that reaction. So he was gone anyway. Ridiculous carry on for a player of his experience. He had has free, get on with the game.

Regarding Owen Wall, I'm not sure what his match fitness is like, but he's just coming back from injury

Are you for real or what? Billy Ryan was one of the few to carry the game to Tipp today. Eoin Murphy was directly responsible for 1-01 today another puck out over the line, wants to be involved in everything only what he should be doing, stopping goals,

I agree, I think Billy has had an excellent league. Loads of energy, pace and workrate, without him we have no pace in the forwards.

You haven’t commented after any game we’ve won anyway because it would kill you to give anyone a bit of credit

Maybe you should have put in your own cv after Cody left you seem to know everything

Your crystal ball should come in handy the next time you do the lotto

I suppose Cody wasn’t good enough to manage kk for 20 odd years either in your eyes

I’m right about one thing your no kk hurling supporter anyway just a bitter old man

I said it at the time but we beat teams in that competition who were missing their best players due to the rules in place at the time. Galway were missing 2 outstanding hurlers and we bet them after ET. Limerick were also missing the best u20 in the country in Cathal O'Neill. I was commenting at the time about the achievement due to the rules, i received some nasty comments. If the ridiculous rule change wasn't in Galway would have bet us in the 1st round imo

the revolution begins.

If by revolution he means the same the same thing coming around again and again, he's probably right. It's rinse and repeat with the Kilkenny set-up.

Not for nothing, but maybe it's time we looked outside the county for advice? I'm not saying management, although I wouldn't be opposed to it either, but we clearly need some new ideas with developing players, particularly in the 18-22 year old age bracket, which has been a black hole for development and talent.

I don't care too much results at minor as with it being U-17 they're still fairly young and have plenty of time to develop and I would argue development of the core skills are more important at that age than success (but if it comes with success then all the better), but once past minor we've been an unmitigated disaster really in terms of development, it's been monumentally bad. Even in terms of S&C our younger players coming through look scrawny and weak compared to other counties.

I don't know what we're doing, but what we're doing clearly is extremely poor at that level. We're in a bad funk, and maybe the problem is that we don't know what we're doing but we keep hearing the same voices saying the same things, and we need to go outside the county for fresh ideas.

I don't know what it is, but looking at some of the youth that stood up and drove Clare on last year, the young players that have come through for Cork in recent years, Limerick's younger lads starting to becoming more in tune with the established lads, the younger Tipp lads yesterday, even the difference the younger Offaly lads have made to them the last year, we're at nothing if we're not bringing capable lads through, and we just aren't. Until we get that sorted, this famine is going to continue.

I would argue as well tactically and in terms of first touch, we are poorly coached. I know the lads in charge try their best and giving their all for the county and we should be grateful for it, but at some stage we have to call a spade a spade. One obvious aspect is our striking from distance, unless it's TJ, I have zero confidence in a Kilkenny players striking the ball beyond the 45 unless they're unmarked and in front of goal, we're atrocious at it, even some of the wides yesterday were criminal, the Deegan and Molloy (I think) chances early in the second half were just brutal strikes and both inside the 30. But we have been bad at this for years, particularly compared other counties, and watching the same problem pop up every match and not do something to improve that is just bad coaching.

It's even worse coaching given that we've moved towards a running game where popping the ball over at distance is a necessity as part of the game. We can create the space, but can't shoot properly. Our scoring rates from play over the past few seasons have shown that situation up badly, yet it hasn't even remotely improved, and in many ways has got worse.

We need fresh ideas within our entire hurling infrastructure, and they don't seem to be coming from within any more, maybe it's time we started looking beyond the county boundary. I think the hurling is there, you look at the success of our clubs at intermediate and junior which tend to be small clubs regularly winning AI's against bigger clubs, so I don't know why it seems to be falling down when it comes to wearing the black and amber.

You would think things are bad enough after yesterday without wanting to pour doubt on the merits of our '20 win in '22. I take it you were in Thurles that day and spoiled the celebrations of those few KK supporters in your vicinity? Have a good look at the Limerick team they beat that day. You might also consider the Cork team that won in '23 pipped a Clare team by one point in Munster that was minus Adam Hogan last years YHOTY.No furore down there over that and we know what followed.

That was one thing Limerick weeded out in their academy’s.

For years who you knew got you a job with the underage Limerick squads but Gerry McManus (brother of JP) got the best people with the best interests of players at heart in the right positions and the Limerick hurling academy’s took off from there.

People writing off Limerick after a loss to Cork last year when in reality they have filtered through another crop of under 23s in the mean time to the first team who are strong and conditioned and ready to impact senior hurling this year

Jason Gillane
Shane Bull O’Brien
Aidan O’Connor
Cathal O Neill
Adam English
Colin Coughlan
Ethan Hurley
Fergal O Connor

Long time reader of this forum and avid Kilkenny supporter through thick and thin but enough is enough now after yesterday and I am just beyond frustrated at the state of things. I have never seen things as bad, and I remember the lean times of 83-92, having been at most every match then.

Say what you want about Cody, but at least he had standards, the current team have experienced a significant decline in those standards, which is unacceptable given their history. Kilkenny lack depth and have an inability to develop young players effectively, both which are major concerns (but both are fixable given correct resources)

The reality is that I believe Kilkenny are as far from All Ireland contention as they have ever been, potentially for a decade or more. This is a catastrophic place to be in.

With no axe to grind to anyone personally, The County Board are unfit for purpose, and I wonder is it time for a comprehensive overhaul. Is it time for an EGM to address colective mismanagement and declining standards. Is it time for a complete change, with no current members involved. Drastic yes, but to restore Kilkenny's competitive edge and rebuild trust within the GAA community, it could and should happen.

At the moment, teams love to play us. This is the ultimate slap in the face for a county which such a proud tradition.