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Why Does Donegal Have So Many Fatal Road Accidents?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Thats fair. If anything, good surfaces on roads often leads to much faster driving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,263 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    In Donegal, it's not just the motorists...

    A man who galloped to his local shop on a horse and cart to get cigarettes while drunk has been fined €250.

    Danny Connors (49) of Canal Road, Letterkenny, Co Donegal, had been ordered last April to complete a safer driving course after he appeared before the local District Court having being stopped while drunk in charge of a horse and cart at 8.55am on June 20th, 2021.

    The court heard he was 3½ times over the drink-driving limit.

    Gardaí observed him swaying on the road, Sgt Gerard Dalton said. When ordered to stop he told gardaí, “F**k off, I’m not stopping.” When eventually stopped, he was arrested for an offence contrary to section 6 of the Road Traffic Act, 2010.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 678 ✭✭✭Frost Spice


    I'll always remember this thread full of downplaying and whataboutery.

    I'm mint.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,697 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I get the impression some folk are just waiting for more deaths in Donegal so they can resurrect this thread, which is rather sad.

    There's road deaths across other counties on a near continual basis, but none get their own threads to do a bit of county bashing. And some of them aren't far behind Donegal in total numbers.

    It's got to the stage when there is a Donegal death, I think "i suppose the thread is going to go live again".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,939 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    These are the first posts in this thread in 16 months which says it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,342 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    I resurrected the thread as high profile crashes are happening, folk say there is almost zero RPU visibility in Donegal, and anecdotally it appears to be a free-for-all scenario on the roads. I could have started a new thread but one exists



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    2024 was a very bad year in Donegal and it was 4th in the list. As niman says, people just waiting for a bit of Donegal bashing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,263 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Talk about a persecution complex.

    There's a reason Donegal is synonymous with reckless driving and road deaths.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭Krazy gang


    What the fcuk is wrong with young men from donegal? Boy racers acting like they're invincible, then it's their parents and brothers and sisters who have to suffer the consequences of their reckless driving.

    Is it some sort of ego thing, or a weird want for notoriety. Not many weekends go by where you don't hear some lad from inishown or letterkenny has been killed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭mondeoman72


    I grew up in Donegal and it was always nuts. From the loopers coming across the border not giving a crap, to the souped up starlets, they were all lethal. Letterkenny at rally time was downright crazy, every fool thought they were a rally driver.

    The roads have been improved but I will never forget driving through the gap on a motorcycle, with the girlfriend on the back, and a bloody sheep trots out in front of me. Lack of enforcement is a major issue, like most of the country, the gardai do not have the numbers.

    Ok, sometimes they sit up from Biddys waiting for people to come out with a few pints on them, but in general, they dont have the numers to be around a whole lot. The pettigo road is lethal at the best of times, I have driven it in a storm and came across a caravan spread across the bog.

    It really needs more gardai for enforcement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand


    If the roads were all newly surfaced in Donegal l suspect things could be even worse as the boy (and girl) racer culture endemic to Donegal would go even faster. Someone wrote on this thread that the common use age of illegal plates (fonts and colours) are indicative of the l’ll do what l want culture. I agree, it shows the mindset involved and it also shows the lack of enforcement from the local gardai.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,700 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's just horrific. I'm from rural Donegal but fate was kind enough to have grow up there before the advent of the smartphone and kinder still to provide me with a way to leave for good. There's always been a boy racer culture. One lad used to turn up to school driving his Da's tractor and the other fellas were deeply envious of that. On top of that, a lot of the roads outside the towns are poor and you've chancers taking the mick with regard to the drink and the aforementioned smartphones.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,794 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    From the Independent a while back…

    “Donegal, the county with one of Ireland's highest rates of road deaths, lost one third of its dedicated Garda Roads Policing Unit personnel in the space of just three years. The revelation came in a study by road safety group PARC, which analysed roads policing personnel numbers between 2009 and 2024 across all Garda divisions. Overall personnel dropped from 1,046 in 2009 to 627 in December 2024. Between 2021 and December 2024, Garda RPU personnel dropped by 109 officers.”

    That’s just nuts. So accidents and deaths increase. But let’s decrease the resources used to enforce road safety and to detect people breaking the law.

    That’s ‘modern’ Ireland for ya my friends..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,732 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I live in a rural enough area and there's a very small car scene. It died out a lot in the 2010's. Picked up a little again.

    However Donegal has a total different culture around cars in my experience.

    I do think there's a lot of peer pressure on young guys in that neck of the woods and it's hard not to follow it.

    Even down to clothes, etc having the best dealer/Chelsea boots is a thing up there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 678 ✭✭✭Frost Spice


    I understand you feeling defensive if Donegal is your home county and you're a safe driver - but I don't think it's meant as an excuse to have a go at Donegal people overall, just an apparent pattern which people are giving examples of. Maybe it depends on what parts, how busy the traffic is, etc. Yeah there is dangerous driving anywhere unfortunately, but Donegal with its very winding roads seems to be particularly dangerous for crazy driving. West Cork is like that too - just nutters. On the windiest of roads, the darkest and wettest of nights. It's terrifying.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,744 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Donegal is a fine county, great golf courses and the rallying culture is a positive thing, of course some take it too far. The people do have a rebellious streak but you'll get that in border counties. IME Donegal people are a lot more pleasant and open than they are in other border counties which can have a road safety record at least as bad if not worse than Donegal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,939 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    the rallying culture is a positive thing,

    How is this 'culture' a positive thing?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Yeah they are . The last Donegal person I met he was in convoy with his Co louth girlfriend , who happened to rear end me . One thing I did notice is they both had the nearly same make of car with exactly the same LH reg . I copped but didn't get involved as it was going to my insurance . Things are different up there . ALWAYS trying to pull a fast one .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭nearby_cheetah


    “Donegal, the county with one of Ireland's highest rates of road deaths

    So it's not the highest? Anyone point me in the direction of the thread discussing the county with the highest?

    The Donegal people generally speaking are perfectly safe drivers, even though their numbers are driven up by the late-night boy racer culture crashes, they still don't make the top which must make the non boy racer drivers very safe to pull the average down. That's despite the large distances traveled and poor roads.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,762 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,907 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    ^^^ all lining themselves up for a Darwin Award 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,697 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Yeah cos only Donegal drivers are doing this. No-one else in the other 31 counties is doing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭nearby_cheetah


    What about the drivers killed in the counties with higher death rates than Donegal? Have they earned Darwin awards in your eyes?

    You and the others can't have it both ways. If Donegal has a high road death due to late night boy racer culture, then the regular drivers must be much safer and competent than average to keep the county off the top of the list. Or drivers in counties that don't have a boy racer culture must be absolutely shite to be at the same or above the county that has the problem. It's them drivers than need to have a good look at themselves.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,907 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Not quite sure what you're taking offence at. My comment was in response to an article in a Donegal newspaper referring to Donegal drivers but I did not single out Donegal people!

    However, as you're clearly taking offence at any potential dig towards Donegal people, ill clarify my comment for you: anyone who drives without a seatbelt is a complete eejit and is lining themself up for a Darwin Award!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,059 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    There is a definite devil may care attitude to driving in Donegal and Ulster/NI in general Donegal definitely the worst IMO. There is a wildness and lawlessness in mindset. It shows in the driving. That A5 going through Tyrone towards Donegal is. a death trap, especially when aggressive driving is added to a poorly designed road.
    The perception by some Dubs is that travelling North is a risk not worth taking due to the wildness in driving. Having travelled to Donegal recently it is not hard to see why.

    However, the drive to Armagh from Dublin is less stressful due to better roads. However, I would be lying if I didn’t say I was “switched on” for aggressive driving even so.

    I was tuned in for it. Travelling north = more potential dangerous driving than the usual.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    dublin is an absolute pain to drive in , no manners appalling road layouts, traffic everywhere. the driving is much more aggressive just slower because of the volume.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭nearby_cheetah


    I look forward to your observations on Mayo drivers for example, a statistically more dangerous county than Donegal despite having better roads. Just what are they at?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    Donegal cars often pass me on the motorway towards Belfast. It is normal for people to drive over the limit on the motorway. I have been guilty of this myself but I try to watch my speeds ever since I got 3 penalty points for driving 37mph in 30 zone.

    I have a problem with tail gaters, when I see them in my mirror I feel a wave of anxiety come over me. These tail gaters are the reason why I got my penalty points because I got into a bad habit of driving too fast.

    On another note, some people argue that speed vans target Catholic areas more than Protestants. My local republican village often gets target for speed vans yet I have rarely seen one in local Protestant village.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,342 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    In Donegal, they cancel St Patrick's parade because of another fatal road incident



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