Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

The five point plan by McFaul definitely sounds plausible. Trump withdrawing troops from Europe seems believable - he doesn't give a toss what happens to Europe and probably thinks it's not worth defending and certainly not by the US.

The lifting of sanctions one also sound very plausible. He is eyeing up doing economic deals with the Russians worth billions of dollars.

Trump has just said "Ukraine should never have started it"

And there it is. All of this was predicted. Yet another sign he is turning on Europe and Ukraine in favour of a dictator.

They've already lost the trade with USA.

They canned their vast nuclear power network providing clean and cheap energy in order to become reliable on Russia. Putin had Merkel in his pocket.

Agreed re the cult piece. The way his advisors, team, secretaries, etc. all fawn over him working to outdo one another, even in that X clip posted above with the insane smiling

'he'll go down in history as one of the greatest statesmen ever, and you all need to understand that',

they must be instructed to do so. Sky News this morning posted Tweets from Rubio from after the invasion had started literally saying that

'Western leaders still dont fully realise Putin is an expert liar, any ceasefire they endorse will be for strategic aims, and his sole objective is a Russian puppet government in Ukraine'.

What is US public opinion on this? I have anecdotally been reading Reddit and social media posts, opposition is pretty much just from those who voted against him anyway, and it lukewarm, however support for his actions is red-hot. The US is behaving like a big kid in the playground suddely realising he can be a bully and push people over without consequence, and his followers become more and more excited and enthuasiastic with each escalating action relieving the impotent rage theyve pent up all their lives. All this while watching their government officials constantly talk about the genius/mastermind/hero who is Trump, who has now publically stated to news media that Ukraine actually started the war with Russia.

Repeating myself, but we need further EU integration and defence spending. This is still just a month in, consequences of this will grow and grow and escalate, and I fully expect Trump to stand for election (or even just refuse to leave office under some pretext- perhaps a war?) in 4 years time. Pax Americana is over, the new world order emerging will be some sort of USA-Russia(-Israel??) axis which will become bolder and more aggressive, and we in the EU are surrounded.

What deals could they have made that would of been a lot better for Ukraine than they are going to get now ?

Draft treaty rejected straight away by Biden and Nato

Istanbul collapsed near the end as the negotiators were popping champagne corks

Brazil / China deal rejected

After 3 years of no diplomacy, Russia not invited to a peace summit in Switzerland and now everyone are moaning they are not invited, Council of Europe meeting to discuss Ukraine, Russia just about to speak and all the European delegates get up and walk out.

3 years of " Putin can't be trusted to make a deal " now they all want to negotiate because Trump made the effort and picked up a phone and talked for 90 minutes. A week later and they are sat round a table like grown ups at least making an effort.

Biden is on a beach somewhere, Nato is collapsing, Eastern Europeans are moving to another position while the others talk about sending soldiers, more sanctions and send more bombs while wanting to become peacemakers.

If the Europeans get their head around the reality that Ukraine cannot achieve anything and things will end up far worse for them. Yes Nato and the West has lost this conflict and the US understand that reality maybe it is time for others to face it also.

These talks have not even started yet, can you imagine how long it will take to go through everything, 6 months at least and what is going to happen in that period ?

This psycho was also claiming the UK have more people in prison for their political views than Russia. All these American fools will believe this sh*t too.

I get the impression from posts here over those ‘THREE DAY WAR “ that Poland is so armed and prepared that it would be MORECTHAN A MATCH for Russia . I think that the Poles are boxing clever. Having ‘observed the strength or otherwise of the Russian ‘WAR MACHINE’ it probably NOW HAS SHORTENED the time that it could ‘WIPE RU OFF THE MAP. It is probably fine tuning its war strategy, increasing its output of drones, developing more effective drones, etc.

On the basis that Ru is no too far from being on its knees , just two simple actions are needed and there will then be no need for peacekeepers, etc, etc and the restoration of world order and trust

(1) the US and others assist UKr with arms - and even tighter sanctions - to force Ru to stop invading. A Russian economy operating ‘below a certain level will bring this about

(2) Russia ‘requested’/ forded to withdraw to the pre 2014 borders

Simple as

The world and especially the US has NEVER been in a better position to bring stability to the situation than now and the US very actively ignoring the opportunity IMO.
IMO , The US is actually 100% delivering on the Ru playbook. It’s beyond incredible

Ye still don't get it. There is no republican party. There is just the Trump MAGA cult and that is all.

Honestly? I couldn’t give a fig what America says from here on in - and our far superior European and UK media shouldn’t be entertaining that b0ll0x or at least ensuring they get laughed out of it when they come out with such guff.

And also, I’m starting to use the term “America” more - not Trump, not MAGA. Considering the deafening silence from the so called opposition over there, clearly what Trump and MAGA are saying, is what America is saying, from the perspective of how Ireland and the rest of Europe need to approach this.
When the American opposition starts to “care” and vocalise and mobilise and significantly differentiate themselves from MAGA in America, I might start to reconsider- but until then, it’s “America” .

Look at the deadening silence in Europe too. Have any leaders condemned Trump's "they were asking for it" comments yet? Silence. They're gutless and they're going to let Trump and Russia dictate what happens to Ukraine.

Trump placed tarrifs on Aluminium

Plenty of cheap aluminium now in Canada and here in Europe

Russia can go and f themselves

Trump likes dictators, he admires the likes of Putin and Xi who can stay in power for years and would like to do the same.