Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Kilkenny GAA Thread

1502503505507508545

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭blackcard


    I think that 4 of our 6 backs are nearly set in stone. Huw, Shane Murphy, Carey and Blanch. Mikey was better today but needs to prove himself again. I would like to see Peter McDonald tried at wing back. Wing back is probably Jordan Molloy's best position too.

    I was impressed with Cian Kenny's workrate today. I think midfield is his best position.

    Stephen Donnelly and Harry Shine should get another chance though things didn't go for them today. Harry is a skilful hurler but isn't fast or great in the air so he is going to struggle with the way KK play



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    huge work rate from both Cian Kenny and Billy Ryan, if you get a point or two off of Billy Ryan we would be doing well. Maybe that’s all we should be expecting from him and let the marquee forwards do the scoring although I wouldn’t be depending on Eoin Cody, what is wrong with him he played alongside the two best forwards of all time and surely saw the other one. Carey,Shefflin and T.J. Always popped a ball off to a man in a better position. These passes made them the super players they were. It’s easy for defenders to swarm Cody knowing that there’s not a hope in e on hell he’ll pass the ball.Now when there is video analysis done why isn’t the bolix chawed out of these lads, it’s the same as Paddy Deegan with a big aimless ball up to the forwards ask them a simple question WHY? Anyway I thought it was management fault for the second half, the should have been told no let up drive on and should have stared substituting earlier. I couldn’t understand why he didn’t introduce Gearoid Dunne to give him a confidence boost, he played very well in Ennis when introduced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭me89


    Mikey Carey excellent again and having a great league. Sane Murphy has to keep that number 4 jersey, I actually thought Doyle played well.Mossy conversion rate is exceptional he rarely misses a chance.

    I think we say the same thing after every game but the ball into the full forward line is so poor, what chance do the likes of Dunne and Shine have of impressing when the ball is coming 3 ft over there head, it's so frustrating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    just as a side note my hands circulation didn’t come back for about twenty minutes in the car, not easy on players but if you are there you can appreciate the conditions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 Moosey15


    So hard to listen to the Rte commentary…. Droning on about how many Wexford were missing , making excuses for them when they weren’t going well and getting over the top carried away when they improved in the second half , poor ger was almost in tears …… you’d never think we’d had a few retirements and personnel missing ourselves ….anybody think that that despite our relative fall from grace we are still refereed differently, whistle blown the instant one of ours looks any way a foul but have to work much harder or ship much worse punishment to get a free ? That knee in the back incident was an absolute disgrace and the commentators making an “Aussie rules “ joke out of it , also a really obvious and bad 3rd man tackle missed ?



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭challengerbell


    Was actually fed up listening to it on RTE. Pundits and commentary constantly making excuses for Wexford through the whole transmission. Theyre only down what, 4 or 5 lads who will come back. Its not like theyre missing 9 or 10. Every team has had retirements. Wexford arent in a good place and it looks like its going to get worse over the next couple of years before it gets better. It would be disastrous for the Leinster Championship to see them go the way of Offaly, who, no matter what they think, will not be able to climb back to challenging for Leinsters off the back of one underage team. But its like some people are putting their fingers in their ears and pretending Wexfords issues dont exist.

    I also loved Ger chiming in about the great crowd that had turned up and how theres always a great crown in Wexford Park for the hurling. 4,562 the attendance given. Was probably the lowest attended game in 1a so far. RTE werent afraid to throw a dig in at Tipps attendance last weekend and there was far more at that game than last night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    minors bet Tipp by 2pts. In Dunmore this morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭jamesbond2022


    Was it last year Wexford bet kk and barely survived relegation from Leinster after been bet by Westmeath the week before and they had a full deck to pick from

    I would be worried if I was a Wexford fan once Ryan macdonald and chin retire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 kinghenry1


    Wexford are very poor have 4 or 5 to come back in but there not brilliant players either we much better when it matteted was never going to drieve it home tonight with the championship game down their to come.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Sir Chaz


    Heard that, although heard it was 3. Also heard Woodlock had the Tipp young fellas far more excited than was necessary, to put it mildly, for an early season challenge game. Seems like a horrible character given his antics in Nowlan Park last year, and his macho bukksh!t comments afterwards.

    Limerick/Tipp was a fair game today. 2 big challenges in Nowlan Park ahead against both. Savage fitness levels from both teams for this time of year.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭conor05


    In reality Wexford haven’t been good since 2004 bar a couple of good years with Davy Fitz sweeper system.

    Wexford giving it their all to beat Kilkenny in round robin matches has papered over the cracks that they have been losing championship matches during that period to Dublin, Antrim & Westmeath.

    Looking at Limerick today and who they have to come back into that team they seem light years ahead of the standard of hurling on show in Wexford Park last night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    ye it could of been three points alright I missed the first minute or two. The Tipp wing back was acting the tramp alright and at one stage a free for all broke out. I hadn’t really thought about the Woodlock influence but you could be right, if you are they should bottle it up for the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Krazy gang


    Wexford don't really have that many to return. Liam Ryan had a serious operation apparently before Xmas so not definite he'll be back. Chin, Mcdonald and Shane reck, Jack ó Connor can't stay fit. Matthew o Hanlon and Pádraig foley presence are huge losses in their defence.

    We'll probably be playing a similar limerick team to today with plenty absentees. Hope Stephen Donnelly gets another chance, showed bit of promise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭jamesbond2022


    Wasn’t it woodlock who proclaimed Tipperary were starting there own drive for 5 at the 2010 Tipperary home coming he retired in 2015 and tipps next all Ireland was 2016

    His carry on on the line last year by him and all his management was scandalous particularly in the profession there in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    I posted this before the game so although I was happy enough with how things went at six for Mikey Carey ( he can do better) I thought moving Blanchfield to five resulted in him being less involved in the game.

    I’ve said plenty of times on here that I’d like to see Carey tried at centre back but I think we need Blanchfield on the ball a bit more than he was in Wexford, he has a bit of presence with his stature in the middle and uses the ball well going forward. They both like to get forward which is okay as long as they understand they have to provide cover for each other.
    It’ll be interesting to see what Lyng settles on for the championship.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Village87


    I am very sceptical of Carey no.6, i have seen him for club this year and he was poor in a lot of matches, his hurling skill levels are basic to say the least, in the county final Young Irelands conceded a goal due to Carey standing on his own and miss hit the ball and it barely went 10 yards straight to opposition player(they worked a goal from the play), this happened a lot from what i seen this year. He is a very good athlete and is working well on the wing. Just my opinion on him, maybe i will be proved wrong



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    Yeah I don’t agree with that at all, no doubt it took him a while to get his eye in after coming back from a layoff last year and he has to work on his composure and decision making on the ball for sure… but to say his hurling skill levels are very poor is just silly to be honest. His striking this year has been very good . You don’t get up the field from the half back line and pick off scores (like he has in every game so far this year)at inter county level if your striking or hurling is very poor…. (Man of the match on Sunday)
    As I said there’s no doubt he has aspects of his game he needs to work on but I think you’re being very unfair on him.

    Post edited by Charlie69 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Village87


    Yeah just a feeling i have about him at centre back where you need a lot of hurling, composure, good hands etc. He has been great on the wing, even before he went on his travels, he works well there, has great pace which we lack. But look as you said hopefully i will be proved wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    That’s fair enough and I’m not at all sure about him at six going forward … as I said Blanchfield probably offers a bit more to the team overall if he learns to play the position (he still has a bit to do) but I just thought your criticism of Carey as a hurler was a bit over the top.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭neverbet


    There is much more to it than that, the opposition played for one. DJ, Henry, Larkin and TJ some of the greatest the game has seen can never be judged on scores alone. They were (TJ still) equally renowned for their scores created and selfless teamwork. Shane O'Donnell is the ultimate modern team player, has his fingerprints on so many of his fellow Clare forwards scores and so much more . We all know of Codys ability , he just needs to learn there really is no I in team.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Krazy gang


    I get your point about Carey. His strengths are probably more suited to the wing but equally blanchfieid is more effective at 5 as well where he can get forward for scores. At 6 he sits back a lot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Village87


    I agree, I think David Blanchfield could be similar to D Bryne's at wing back, great striker, good legs to carry forward and unbeatable in the air, made for the positon, but that does not solve our probelm at 6.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭Neewollah


    That is the modern 6 position sure, they sit a lot deeper and distribute the ball. Wings backs have more freedom to get up and down the pitch. Blanchfield is more suited to that job as a 6 than Carey in my opinion and vice versa with Carey on the wing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Charlie69


    That’s the thing, they’re probably both better suited to wing back but we need to find someone for centre back. It’s no harm to have a couple of lads that can play there if the need arises though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭blackcard


    I think Blanch's best position is at 7, played for KK U20 there, also played a lot there for Bennettsbridge. But I don't see much alternative to him as a centre back. I would like him to make more forward runs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    not trying to be clever but there’s a few posters on here who were watching the match on television and have a totally different view of the game than I had and I noticed that in Ennis some poster said Cian Kenny was bad, not so and in Wexford park I thought Killian Doyle wasn’t bad? Can I get a few opinion from people who were at the game, there seems to be a different perspective altogether on the games, again I’m not trying to be clever just curious?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    Yes James but they went home as all Ireland champions our Donkeys on the line went home with nothing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭Neewollah


    I thought that was the best Killian Doyle has played in a Kilkenny Senior shirt. One small fault was I think he tried to offload the ball too quickly when in possession. Probably down to nerves. I'd say he nearly handpassed every ball sideways the second it got into his hand. Would like to see him get the head up and break the tackle a little more. Also thought he had filled out considerably. I also though Stephen Donnelly was good in first half. Makes clever off the shoulder runs and has good vision on the ball similar to John. Harry Shine showed some glimpses also but the problem we have in all our forwards is none are blessed with lightning pace bar possibly Billy Ryan. We are struggling to get space ahead of the man or get away from the man when in possession. We're relying heavily on good off the shoulder running.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭Marrooned


    I’d agree entirely with all of that, I probably mixed up Billy,Shane and Killian at times. I thought the two corner forwards tried hard but as you said they are not blessed with speed especially Harry.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Nedflanders02


    At the county board meeting last night, confirmed that planning on the new development in Dunmore will be going in, probably in April, details of the plan should be out at the April CB meeting, they reckon that by the time everything is complete the cost could hit €5m.



Advertisement