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FI Charts ( T120+ onwards) Winter 2024/2025 **READ MOD NOTE IN FIRST

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,532 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Maybe but after some very frosty weather after Christmas and washout conditions over the Jay while and a week without power, I’m personally very happy for a calm week without much going on. Snow on top of lines that are likely “for now” repairs will only mean more power outages. People need a break and the ground definitely needs a chance to dry out so I can’t agree with you.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭almostthere12


    Well the 0z ECM is definitely eye candy in FI, could it be a new trend? Unfortunately it is an outlier on the ensembles.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭almostthere12


    Also the GEM has consistently been giving us snow for next Tuesday as it develops a unstable cold pool which is a lot stronger than the other models.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭pureza


    At 1035mb pressure,there wouldn’t be much if any precipitation

    Secondly a lot of the surface air in the above is sourced in SE Europe and the Adriatic

    Even Denmark further north has max temps of 4c forecast next week

    No hope here,all we will import is smog haze I think on that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    LONG RANGE

    There has been much talk over the past week about potential snow and severe cold heading our way. Analysis of the US weather model (GFS) suggests such an outcome is unlikely, at least up to mid-month.

    Forecasting becomes less reliable beyond the 3-5 day window, but trends can be picked up when cross checking successive runs of weather models.

    In a review of the last 5 runs of the GFS using the Midlands on midday, Monday February 17th as the source point, our mid-month weather looks like bringing average temperatures for the time of year (5-8c) and relatively low rainfall totals.

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    Ireland will find itself on the boundary between Atlantic low-pressure systems and high pressure to our northeast, a meteorological no man’s land that would produce rather benign conditions overall. Any rainfall would likely be restricted to the western half of Ireland with drier conditions further east.

    The good news is that this week’s spell of weather will allow for good drying conditions which should continue for much of Ireland into much of the following week. The threat of Atlantic storms tracking across Ireland over the next fortnight is presently low as high pressure inhibits their progress eastward (see GFS panels below for February 17th).

    The above source point of 17th February will be updated accordingly in the coming days to see if there is a trend towards a change to the outlook.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭almostthere12


    I was wondering what you were on about but my bad I posted the wrong chart, correct one below…….Denmark would not be 4C this time!! 😉

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Largely dry and settled with cold nights is the main theme of our weather for the next 7 days at least. High pressure to our east is expected to drift as we move beyond the weekend.It may become more unsettled after mid-week next week, particularly in the western half of Ireland. The red line for the relevant graphs below represents the mean (average) of all 32 members of the GFS weather model.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭esposito


    Nothing really exciting from the models. Colder, good sunshine and great drying so many on here will be pleased and that’s understandable after the recent storm.

    However it would be nice to see proper cold from the east reach our shores at some stage in February with snow showers affecting the snow starved east coast. A ‘son of the beast’ like 17th/ 18th March 2018 would do. Knowing our luck that will probably happen in a months time when most of us won’t want it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭almostthere12


    To look further ahead it still does look like it is all to play for in mid to late February with a wide range of options being thrown out by the models. Of course it is all FI but very interesting watching to see how it will all pan out. All models are in general agreement up to the middle of next week however then the differences start to emerge.

    As posted this morning the 0z ECM had the holy grail but was very much an outlier, and the 12z has us stuck in a no man's land but with heights still very far north. The GFS on the other hand wants to bring the Atlantic back as it collapses the northern high fairly quickly at the end of next week.

    Unfortunately I think the GFS will probably be right but when there are heights moving that far north who knows what will happen.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    the KMA is fighting the good fight still

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Tonight's operational run of the GFS has a bullseye low pressure system (951hPa) over Ireland in 13 days from now, which would really announce the return of the Atlantic in this neck of the woods. However, the model's 31 other members eo not follow suit, thereby leaving the operational run without any support for such an outcome.

    "Go Away. Rain, rain, go away. Come again another d̶a̶y̶ month."

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    Whatever about a BFTE, I hope we don't get any more bad storms this season.

    'Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio? A nation turns It's lonely eyes to you.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    A cold whopper of a Gem. The gfs has us in the Atlantic sink

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭esposito


    UKMO looks promising too.

    ECM meh.

    It would be great to wake up some morning with ALL the major models in agreement that a frigid easterly is on its way to our shores. They love to keep us guessing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    kma still showing. I'll do a breakdown on gfs shortly and will post

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Robwindstorm


    Alex Deakin from UK Met has a great explanation of variables from the source of the easterly fetch on the 10 day outlook. Great watch (05/02/25)



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    There's still the possibility that we could get a half decent easterly before the end of winter but it's still all looking a bit flimsy and we need all models singing from the same easterly hymn sheet. We need some big upgrades in the models over the next few days to bring joy back to us in the snow starved east, particularly from the GFS and ECM.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    UKMO shifts towards reinforcing the block

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    A shift away from the Atlantic with better heights in the GEFS mean. I see the USA weather community getting very upset that their cold chances are slipping. When they get excited about snow opportunities, it usually precipitates an Atlantic onslaught for us. Who knows. All is far from determined as of now. 50/50

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭almostthere12


    That’s very interesting about the US, what website or forum do you go to to see what they’re saying across the pond Wolf?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Follow US wx accounts on Twitter. They sound like us today when we see things going belly up

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭almostthere12


    Thanks, hopefully we’ll see the Atlantic back off a bit more now, whether that gives the cold from the east a chance to dig in is another thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    There has been a shift toward sustaining the current dry spell into the middle of next week and beyond in this evening's weather model output. Prospects of something a little colder later next week into the following week have also increased but the likelihood of such an outcome remains around 50/50. The other possible outcome brings cloudier conditions with rain at times, particularly to the western half of Ireland.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I didn't think people in the United States would get upset over snow chances slipping since they get massive snow falls several times every winter, far more often than anywhere in Europe outside of Scandinavia perhaps. It would be like us getting upset because we don't get enough cloud, wind and rain in this country from the Atlantic!.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    Hope that at least the wind and rain stays away for as long as possible for what remains of this winter......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    The US is a massive country. There are many parts of the US that get much less snow than us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭Ros4Sam24


    But nearly everywhere in the US gets better summers than us, because of the fe**in Atlantic!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    The KMA is still on the nose candy

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    KMA has never backed down from a cold spell unlike most of the other models. CFS also for the most part been on the nose candy for a while now.

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    Until the GFS, GEM, ECM and Icon fall in line i'm not taking these cold charts in anyway seriously, but at least proper cold is still on the table just about. I'd like to see upgrades in the models beginning tomorrow.

    GFS and ECM having none of the cold really, a 7 to 10 days of dry coolish weather and then the Atlantic comes back. However alot can change between now and February 15th for better or for worse.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)




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