Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

Russians love conspiracy theories (as can be seen in ramblings of @Sand regularly here) and there exists a special national grade of victimhood complex that is deeply ingrained in the culture due to centuries of those on top blaming “the other” to distract from their often epic homegrown fuckups

Be it Tzar blaming europe or communists blaming capitalism or now Putin blaming “the west”

Perhaps they should consider the theory that Putin is a CIA plant recruited in Germany with the sole purpose of destroying Russia and Russians from the inside, and them being too stupid to see the big picture and do anything about it

😆

Not the first time them Germans sent someone to destroy Russia from within → see Lenin

now that’s interesting, clearly Russia are neither interested in negotiations nor helping their “allies”

Which yet again throws a spanner into the fake “why don’t Ukraine negotiate” narrative

You are both reading stuff into my post that I didn't say, and certainly that I didn't mean.

I am conflicted about this particular war, as I support neither political side, neither Putin (who showed his true colours when he assaulted Chechnya) nor Zelensky with his NATO backers.

I think it is a tragedy that the war ever happened, and my heart goes out to the people who have fled their homes in terror, including - for instance - the Ukrainian woman I met who left Odessa after a rocket flashed past the window of her apartment - a woman who voiced extreme dislike for Zelensky, and utter confusion as to what Putin was up to. I also feel for those who have lost family and friends; and for those who have been injured.

I avoid most news on the war because of the difficulty in extracting real information from the propaganda, but I do follow progress on the ground via liveuamap.com and deepstatemap.live. They are both pro-Ukrainian, and if anything are likely to under-report Russian gains and over-estimate Ukraine's ability. Overall though, I believe they paint a fairly honest picture of where the front is and which direction it is moving in, although sometimes with a bit of a time lag.

I suspect my position won't meet your approval, but there is no good side in this war, although many good people have been very badly affected by it.

One final thing: do check out deepstatemap.live. You can wind the map back, and see what has happened since the war started, and it will show you where gains and losses have been made, and what has happened in recent months.
Also, you can zoom in on any area and do the same there. Check out the Sudzha area. It looks difficult to defend to my eyes.

Could you explain how there is no good side in this as you say?

If Russia didn't invade there would still be realitive peace in Ukraine, or do you think by now Ukraine would have invaded Russia?

And they had to defend themselves, I'm just failing to see what "bad" Ukraine would have done to Russia?

Is Russia better off now?

Why are you conflicted? The Russians openly state their aims are extermination and are carrying out genocide in Ukraine with Putin wanted for war crimes and industrial scale kidnapping of kids (aka genocide)

You have no issues going on about genocide in Palestine yet in this war the Russians have started you are “conflicted”

Seems to be a common trait in the far left, proving the horseshoe theory of politics that once go out far enough on left endup on far right squaring the swastikas

Aside; is the “conflicted” the new “concerned”?

Oh dear. 😂 Keep avoiding news on the topic, it's clearly served you well with such hard hitting insights.

I know it's hard to support a country defending itself from an aggressor that wants to eradicate its past, current and future cultural and historical existence. Hard to empathise with that. Or NATO which still somehow has not lost a single soldier in the invasion. That "fact" defies logic and can only be put down to fake news. They must have lost thousands but the MSM are towing the line in that regard.

It's also quite difficult to support an imperialist mafia state that invades its smaller neighbour citing dozens of false reasons which have been picked apart one at at time. Then proceed to indiscriminately bomb civilian targets, operate filtration camps, while showing complete disregard for its own citizens also who are packed up into meat waves to never be heard of again. While closer to home incarcerating/conscripting any naysayers. The first mobilised were from the occupied territories making it an added bonus to be occupied. Furthermore they don't need to be counted as Russian military personnel losses.

Best not to take a stance.

» "I am conflicted about this particular war, as I support neither political side"

It's an invasion, and it isn't about political sides.

This isn't some squabble between two nations or some spat, this is one country attempting to conquer and absorb another sovereign country which is fighting for it's very survival.

Putin is forcing it's children to speak Russian, he's stealing their grain, he's erasing their culture - so it has nothing to do with security concerns.

If Ukraine had joined NATO none of this would be happening. This is why countries join NATO (of their own free will) - for precisely the reason we see unfolding in front of us.

I appreciate the sincerity of your post, but the views on display are not rational.

If Putin invaded Ireland would you be tripping over yourself to shift blame onto ourselves? That "both sides" were at fault? That you were conflicted about the political side in Ireland? That we were somehow to blame because we were thinking of joining NATO? That we were too aligned with Europe?

No. Because that would be perverse.

I thought Trump was going to solve this within 24 hours of taking office 😂

Meanwhile, a wife with her husband missing…

https://x.com/i/status/1886753910787805451

I am always reminded of the quotation by the Marquis de Custine, prompted by his visit to the empire in 1839: "in this country, an avowed tyranny would be a mark of progress". And little has changed since his day.

Its looking like A key supply and logistics hub is under threat of being lost in Ukraine

If they lose Povorsk, things look bleak

I am “conflicted”

"He gave his life to defend Russia",

against who, nato? All those nato boys swarming around Luhansk I suppose.

I agree if Ukraine have to withdraw they don't leave it to the last minute. Happened at Avdiivka units were left and had to run through the Russian gauntlet and lost a lot of people that way.

Ah jebus

A friend of Russia who wants to tell us all about free and fair media